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this movie is one big RIP OFF!


I just watched "Jacob's Ladder" which is basically what this movie steals its entire concept from.. I also saw "Mulholland Drive" last week and it reminded me of this movie a lot.

How lame can u be?

wat a rip off this film is.

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Not really. The concept has been around in literature long before the movies you listed. And Stay is far different in just about everyway from those movies.

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Stay is exactly like Mulholland Drive, except that it has no real drama. Lame rip off.

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Yes, Hollywood is making same movies all over again. I'm tired of it. This is rip-off of Carnival of Souls (1962).

You're only "tired of it" because of what point in time your life occurs in. If you'd been born earlier then you'd be bitching that Carnival of Souls ripped off something else. Before movies these ideas were all in books. Everything is a ripoff of something else, the faster you accept that & get used to it the less miserable you'll be.

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lol))

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There are many, many movies with this theme. "Jacob's Ladder" wasn't the first either!

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Exactly, this film has themes different from Jacob's Ladder. It is definitely not a rip-off.



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Defintitely not some rip-off! It's a genre. They're called psychological thrillers because they're meant to keep you on the edge of your seat, using your own psyche to figure out what is going on. Hitchcock was somewhat good at this. But who can forget Eraserhead by David Lynch which came out more than 15 years before Jacob's Ladder?

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Hitchcock was somewhat good at this.
Hitchcock never made a film with Stay's quasi-fantasy view.

The one time he showed an imaginary scene (in Stage Fright) he later regretted it, because the audience that was trying to follow the plot felt betrayed and lied to.

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Well, 'Vertigo' had some interesting existential themes and some nice stylized and, at times, rather bizarre scenes.


But this 'rip-off' complaint theme that I often seen on IMDB, I just don't get.

Seems that this type of 'complaint' happens more with sci-fi, fantasy, and psychological twisty-turny movies than with others.

Makes as much sense to me as saying that a movie about a man cheating on his wife and what happens next was ripped off from (x) that was ripped off from (x) that was ripped off from (x), ad infinitum. Or a movie about suicide. Or a movie about a flood. Or about a lost dog. Or whatever.

There are bound to be *some* similarities in movies handling specific themes by virtue of our similar human experiences and attitudes and knowledge of the world and of dream states, etc., but that doesn't necessarily make one movie or story a rip-off of another...there are all kinds of differences, say, between a 'Jacob's Ladder' and a 'Stay'. One would have to have a very narrow focus to not see that.

And, it seems like some folks on IMDB haven't 'lived' before Jacob's Ladder. It's a good flick, but there are plenty of other movies of that genre and style that came out before JL (and since) that are just as good, or better and that stand up very well all on their own. And before movies, stories...

I find this complaint most often with folks comparing films to Jacob's Ladder or The Sixth Sense.

As if a 'gotcha' scene was newly born with either flick 



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There are plenty of other plot themes, like the unavoidable twist in Shamalan's films that are a lot more overused than the one in Jacob's Ladder and Stay. (I did like JL better though).

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This type of pyshological thrillers (things happen in a character's mind who is dying or already dead) were probably first introduced in 60s in The Twilight Zone original TV series by Rod Serling but similar concepts can be found in other literature works.

Then The Matrix is a ripoff of Plato's cave allegory which was written in some 300 BC.

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Nothing is original!
It's impossible to be original, but you can be authentic!
and personally in my personal opinion the movies mentioned above can not even compare with Stay :)

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I hated Jacob's Ladder and just about every other "it was all a dream" movie (with the exception of The Wizard of Oz) but I loved Stay. Compared to the aforementioned movies and any others I can't remember right now, Stay was highly original, and there was even a happy ending!

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Yes, Hollywood is making same movies all over again. I'm tired of it. This is rip-off of Carnival of Souls (1962).

Similar movies:

Jacob's Ladder (1990)
Carnival of Souls (remake - 1998)
Soul Survivors (2001)
Dead End (2003)
Stay (2005)


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Ok, I'll play. Jacob's Ladder, a phenomenal movie was a ripoff of the short film “An Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge”.

Then I can tell you what that was a rip off of. Would you like me to continue?

Thanks. Goodbye.

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It's funny you mention Twilight Zone b/c my sister and I both remarked that Stay felt like a long TZ episode when we left the theatre after seeing it.

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I agree with the op. I also thought it was a rip off of Jacob's Ladder.

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Jacob's Ladder isn't the first film to use this method of story telling. There's a great short French film from the early '50's with a convict being sent to death with the same device. And if you want to go even further back there's plenty of literature to look at.

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