did anyone else notice that since she went out with that blond guy BEFORE she went out with Peter at the wedding that the blond guy is number 6, and peter (the bagel guy) is actually #7, yet when they married, she put his name by number 6 and put a heart around it...?
shareBy her definition, as you stated being defined as a 'girlfriend' makes them an official number. Which makes Peter #6.... Not Daniel, he uses the term after the wedding on Orcas Island at his cocktail party.
the point i was trying to make though was that she went out with Daniel BEFORE she went out with peter
shareBut Peter refered to her as his girlfriend before Daniel did.... even if Peter wasn't 'really' her boyfriend at the time....
shareI totally agree with you KrazyFotoFreak.
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I just purchased the DVD from Amazon because of the wonderful ratings it got; it came in yesterday & my mother & I watched it last night. But to the point.
You were right; my mom & I discussed this same question last night. The point is, Daniel was truly her #6 boyfriend, because she was already hightly attracted to him & thought he was probably "the one" after they went out, along with her dad & friends...Her heart was already fixed upon him & wanted him so badly that she began manipulating events or PROVIDENCE to make him #7. This was her dilema...does she let her future unfold according to her mother's Timeline [as had been time-proven in the past with her former 5 boyfriends], or does she now manipulate circumstances [planning, conniving, & being dishonest to all the people in her life [i.e. those on the trip, her father & friends, & Peter & Daniel as well], to make it come out as she wants it to?
She opts to manipulate...which she never seemed to have done before with the past 5 guys in her life. Therefore it makes no difference that Peter called her "his girlfriend" at the beginning of the trip, because in her heart & in truth, she was NOT. She had no feelings for Peter other than casual friendship when she contrived her plan & then agreed to go on the wedding trip with him. She tried to stay as emotionally unattached as possible...Falling in love with him snuck up on her when she began to see how much they were alike; their life's viewpoints & directions agreed...feeling trapped in high-pressure jobs, & instead wanting free-spirited lives. He encouraged her to break away from her lists, legalism, & rigid lifestyle. Because as Peter put it, "What do you do after you find #7?", because after that her mother's Timeline mysteriously came to an abrupt end; there were no other instructions.
Could it be that her mother [so close to death] was granted precognition about what was to happen in her daughter's life? And at her child's request gave her a Timeline to navigate her daughter through the rocky road to young adulthood, helping her find her true soul mate at the end? Then knowing she would be in good hands, she left her guardianship of sorts to Peter?
Daniel wanted her for what she appeared to be on the outside [for he too was "comfortable" being inflexible & rigid, & "safe" by resisting change.] But Peter seemed to see the heart of who Amy really was & what she was struggling to become. He encouraged her to take chances & be free. He saw her potential to become much more than she was. He was encouraging & unafraid. She was at a crossroads. She could stagnantly remain the same & miserable with Daniel or be free to grow & experience a full rewarding life with Peter. She chose whom her mother guided her to in the end. (For I believe, although her mother knew what was going to happen in her child's life, she did not MAKE IT HAPPEN, she just KNEW upon her deathbed & so close to eternity, what the future held for her daughter.)
So you see Peter was truly #7, even though she had a tug-of-war going on in her heart over the last two men in her life. Bottom line: The way she felt about a guy was the true test, not some charade she was playing by getting the guy to say "Amy's my girlfriend.", when in truth she was not.
I believe sometimes we can & should strive to control the circumstances in our lives, but at others it is wise to realize that there may be those who know more than we do in the scheme of things...& we may not always like what we think we want when we get it!
What? You have got it all wrong. Peter was #6 and that is the whole point of the movie. Probably why they added her marking him as #6 in the movie on her timeline. Someone gets a number when they are in a relationship. In the case of Peter, a relationship became offical when they were intimate. In the case of Daniel, the relationship became official when he called her his girlfriend. You all have completely missed the point. The point is, just to spell it out, that life cannot be a checklist and based on a timeline. Peter's speech to her when she tells him about the timeline sums it all up and it just takes Amy the rest of the movie to figure out that Peter is right.
sharePlus her mom said they should be "serious relationships." She had two dates with Daniel, but she had a weekend long "date" with Peter and even slept with him before things with Daniela ctually got moving toward serious-ness.
shareAlthough I saw it the same way Soteria and KrazyFotoFreak, I have to ultimately say the following: regardless of how you see it, the film makes use of the faact that life isn't so easily scripted, and that falling in love isn't as easy as 1 - 3, or 1 - 7 as the case may be. If you get technical, then the order she goes out with the guys meets the timeline. If you want to interpret the film, then, yes, Daniel was her #7. However, logically, the movie wasn't meant to be taken this much to heart as much as it was meant to address the fact that love is what it is WHEN it is, and you can't chart it out in a simple little timeline. Ultimately, the numbers are metaphorical. That said, it's such a cute movie, and it does such a good job of making that point. Patrick Dempsey's not bad to look at either... Then there's the adorable Brad Rowe...
shareI don't think her mom saw 7 specific men in her future or anything. Think about it, if you're told you'll have 7 men in your life romantically, wouldn't you start to get more and more focused on being ready for marriage around the time #6 is around think 'ok just one more to go.' It also might mean she wouldn't fight quite as hard to make #5 or #6 happen even if they could've worked cuz she's just not emotionally ready for marriage OR letting go of the timeline. Kind of immature to ignore a good guy for the right number but she eventually grows up. I think what happened is that most people flounder around looking for 'the one' when there are going to be relationships where you grow and aren't meant to stay but the search seems unlimited. Rather than have her in freefall, her mom gave her structure to grow as a person but then left the rest blank so that the now more fully developed woman that she is can move on with an amazing foundation.
The reason she's trying to not just stop at 6 is maybe subconsciously she isn't ready for the final boyfriend whether he's 3rd or 30th but then Peter comments on 'what happens after 7' and her dad (it was him that said this right?) said she gets to pick #7. The point becomes not what order they came in but that she's reached the point where she gets to pick the last one with her heart and head where they need to be. I think having herself introduced as Daniel's girlfriend showed her that isn't what she wanted but she had to have that relationship to have the one with Peter happen as it did so whatever the order there are 7 guys and she just got her numbers a little mixed up.
(Yes, Peter was the one who so astutely pointed out "What happens after #7?")
I think I remember Amy saying to her friends "he has to call me his girlfriend" or something about boyfriend/girlfriend status when they were trying to help her sort out the Daniel/Peter dilemma. Since Peter called her his girlfriend while the Orcas Island deception was going on, technically that makes Peter #6 and Daniel #7. (Remember the sly look Amy had on her face when he said that? As if Peter was confirming that Daniel was the one.)
As others have noted, though, both Peter and Amy's dad were wise enough to point out that Amy needed to put down her timeline and follow her heart. She did.
The (happy) end.
I agree with what has been said. In the end Peter was #6. However, if you think about it, Daniel was techniquely #6. I think this becuase Amy liked Daniel first. She thought he was the man for her because she saw 'Fire works' like her mum said she would.For this reason she did not sleep with Daniel, because at that point it made him #6, and as she thought he was 'the one', she had to manipulate the situation to make him #7;which is why she went away with Peter.
You also have to remember that Peter liked Amy before she even met Daniel, and you could tell that eventually something would have happened with her and Peter. If Amy had not gone away with Peter to turn him into #6, and she slept with Daniel instead, then after Daniel, she would have got with Peter, therefore making him #7. So although in the movie Amy married #6, he was originally meant to be #7, therefore following the timeline as her mother said she would.
I thought number 7 was actually Kevin Spacey himself, after he sends Brad Pitt's wife's head by parcel post (Head-Ex?) to the remote location to which he and Morgan Freeman have driven?
How come you never came to see me, all that time I was away?
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But what about the blind date guy... Jack? Peter is number 6 and Daniel is number 7. By her defintion the number is assigned by the men that call her their girlfriend. Daniel was the 7th guy to call Amy his girlfriend.
shareI WATCHED THE MOVIE TODAY AND IN THE MOVIE "JACK" THE BLIND DATE GUY NEVER SHOWS UP SO THEY NEVER REALLY MET EACH OTHER; DANIEL IS #7 BECAUSE HE DOES NOT CALL HER HIS "GIRLFRIEND" UNTIL AFTER PETER DOES AND PETER SAYS TO HER ON THE WAY TO ORCA ISLAND I TOLD MY FRIENDS YOU ARE MY GIRLFRIEND AND SHE SMILES AND SAYS THAT MAKES YOU #6......SO PETER IS #6 AND DANIEL IS #7........THE END
shareI think the starter of the thread was just saying "technically" Peter was number 7 really when you think about it. Taking away the who calls her girlfriend rule. And like others have mentioned, she totally manipulated the situation. It doesn't need to be seen so literally.
shareEven though she went out with Daniel first, Peter called her his girlfriend first.
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I think the writers were going for the point that her mom wanted her to have experiences, but that ultimately, it doesn't MATTER what number Mr. Right was- she'd be more prepared for it with some life experience, more able to RECOGNIZE Mr. Right, and able to choose the right guy.
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I expected that to be included in the ending... a big "ah ha" moment when he was actually #7, but instead they focused on the importance of letting go of her mom's plan to grow up. I think it could have been cute to realize Peter was 7, but it was a bit more mature and carried more of a "moral" / "point" to have the "grow up" and "make choices" lesson.
shareYeah he's actually number 7. Kind of funny I guess that technically fate still had her marry number 7. I mean the whole calling her "girlfriend" business goes along with him being 6 but in reality in terms of dating and meeting he's 7.
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Just saw this movie tonight for the first time and was thinking the same thing (that Peter really was number seven)!!! I know she never let it go very far with Daniel, but technically she did have some very strong feelings for him before having them for Peter; and those feelings ended with him (Peter)....thus making him number seven, even though he was just supposed to be a filler for number six (which is really all that Daniel was in the end). I thought for sure there would be some cutesy little mention of this at the very end (once it wouldn't have really mattered anymore anyways, lol). I thought it was a very cute made for TV movie!:)
shareI agree that Peter was #7. Just because he called her his girlfriend before Daniel did doesn't matter. Peter was just making up a story at that point--it wasn't true, even to him, so it didn't count.
shareIn my mind, Peter was #7. And I would have told myself that in the movie, rationalized it that way with no difficulty at all and would be living on Orcas Island with Patrick Dempsey. The story would have been a lot shorter but I'd make peace with that somehow.
shareHer dad said that #7 is actually a metaphor for finding the one you are supposed to be with, so yes Peter is actually #7.
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