I found her death very disturbing and unsettling to watch, but obviously amazing and really great that it evoked such a response.
I saw an article saying it's a really terrible decision by a film maker to have such a horrific death shot so close up to a character that didn't deserve to die in such a horrendous way.
Anyone agree / disagree with me or the article?
EDIT: article is here http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/06/15/the-strangely-cruel-and-unusual-death-in-jurassic-world
I agree, could you link the article?
"And he who controls the battlefield, controls history."
That's what get for talking on phone all time you die suddenly and painfully.
shareedited
shareAnd nevermind that the phone calls were regarding your wedding, which should be a pretty big deal.
shareSuddenly? She got hurled around in the air, and then dunked several times into the water, before being swallowed alive by that bigger dinosaur.
shareher death was long and humiliating
Damn, was her death REALLY that bad?
I mean, it was pretty cool and maybe it was undeserved. But really, though, IS it that bad?
I guess they do make the point that her death was brutal for a Jurassic Park movie, considering she's the first major female death of the series. But I just didn't think it was that bad that it's causing so much controversy.
Then again, I underestimated people's thing with the heels.
Don't Judge a Book by Its Movie
Now I can say that I absolutely agree with the article. In the last paragraphs, the author says that maybe her death was "it was created at a point when the script actually gave Zara enough scenes to register as a character requiring a comeuppance".
I don't think she deserved that kind of horrific death, maybe, like the author of the article says, she was a bigger character and maybe some of her scenes were left out of the final cut, this is the only plausible explanation.
"And he who controls the battlefield, controls history."
These are wild animals. They don't care who "deserves" a nice death or not lol.
shareNo, they're fictional animals controlled by a screenwriter and a director. They only kill who their creators want them to kill.
shareSo what?
In real life.. this stuff happens. Nice people die.
Get over it.
If this movie was trying to be like real life, why did the leads and the kids survive like they always do in blockbusters? The filmmakers have control over who the dinosaurs kill and how they're killed. If they were trying to emulate real life, it takes more than just one brutal death of someone who wasn't bad, especially when that someone also wasn't a major character.
shareIt doesn't matter if she was bad or not.
If you look at all the other Jurassic Park movies.. it has NEVER mattered if a character was bad or not. Some just get killed.
It does matter when the movie is supposed to entertain us. This isn't Game of Thrones. The original Jurassic Park understood to keep the deaths of the good characters obscured (Jophrey), off-screen (Arnold), or the result of the character's own actions (Muldoon). None of those categories apply to Zara's death.
shareit's boring storytelling if only bad people get offed in the movies. gotta shake it up to keep the audience on their toes.
I used to be indecisive. Now, I'm not so sure.
Killing side characters isn't exactly exciting either. Want to keep the audience on their toes? Kill Owen, Claire, Zach, and / or Gray.
shareThis.
I will never forget you, rural juror.
you are sad they killed zara,
but you want them to kill Owen, Claire, Zach, and / or Gray.
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okay?
Way to completely miss my point.
shareyour point is that a main character should die, PREFERABLY a male character right?
that's the whole point of this? that the KIDS should have died instead of precious Sara....
that's your point
Seriously the boys should have been a little concern, attempting to shout for help or something instead of like watching a front row seat when zara was dying.
No, my point was in order to keep the audience on their toes, a character the audience is expecting to live has to die.
The user I was responding to claimed Zara's death kept "the audience on their toes." But it didn't because Zara was a minor character who most people knew was going to die. Her death only reinforced that the main characters were safe. However, had Owen, Claire, Zach, and / or Gray died, characters whom are expected to survive, it would be established that no one is safe and the audience would be in suspense over who would make it to the end of the movie.
You claim my point is "PREFERABLY a male character" should die, even though I listed Claire as one of the characters whose death would increase the tension. Side characters like Zara die all the time, kids almost never die. If a kid died (male or female, it doesn't matter), anyone could die, thus making the movie more suspensful.
And you know I'm right, which is why you're reporting my posts.
im not reporting anything. My posts keep getting reported on this forum as well. I have a big red message at the top of my page.
so, hate to break it to you but no, im not reporting
Well, it's just interesting that my response to you on another Zara thread was reported and deleted.
shareim not the only one you were arguing with and not the only one that gets annoyed with your posts. it might have been a response to me but reporting is a pain in the neck, i dont bother
shareYou might not be the only one, but you were the one my deleted post was directed at. I'll take your word that you didn't report me, but that fact stands.
share@TemporaryAgent ...Zara was a minor character who most people knew was going to die.
I admit that it took me by surprise. A woman who was getting married? I figured she'd be safe.
You sound dumb.
shareThat's a dumb thing to say.
shareNot really.
sharehttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Last+Word+Nazi
shareThat would be YOU.
shareSpoken like a last word Nazi. You're not even contributing to the general topic anymore.
shareNeither are you.
shareSays the troll.
shareOnly Troll is you.
shareWhy is that capitalized?
shareWhy not?
shareBecause it took you over two days to come up with that.
shareSome of us have a life outside the Internet.
shareAnd yet you're still responding to me.
shareLook who's talking.
shareYeah, you.
shareYou
shareSo you're still responding? What for?
shareHey, I'm not the one who takes days to respond.
shareThat's because you're not the one with a life outside the Internet.
shareNeither are you.
shareWrong.
shareThen prove you have a life.
shareNot being here 24/7 like you is proof enough.
shareStalking this thread 24/7 is the same thing.
shareThe same as what?
shareMaybe if you got some fresh air, you'd have better comprehension skills.
shareThat's funny coming from a basement dweller on the Internet 24/7.
shareThat's not a wise thing to say when you responded quickly to my post.
shareDoesn't matter how quickly I respond. You're a loser either way.
shareAnd yet you can't stop paying attention to me, so what does that make you?
shareSomeone who enjoys entertainment. If you didn't call me a "last word nazi" I would of stopped replying. But I keep going just to prove that YOU are a last word nazi.
shareI didn't care about her death one way or another. There were hundreds dying and she was just the face that represented all of them. I think the death was too cartoony and reminded me a bad amusement park ride, but I wasn't offended or put off by it. Honestly the moment after it happened I already forgot about it. Seeing the blood and guys in the I rex's mouth of the 2 men she ate was much more brutal on me.
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She was the only one who died because this movie was too afraid to kill civilians.
shareWhich only proves my point. When you gaze into an abyss, the abyss gazes into you.
shareYou have no point.
shareAnd you proved my point again.
shareWhat point?
shareExactly. It'll just go right over your head.
shareImpossible.
shareNow it's taking you almost a week to respond? I see you're determined to keep this facade of having a life up.
shareWhat's your reason for responding so fast? Don't you have a life?
shareSilly me, I didn't know spending a few minutes writing a message means I don't have a life.
shareIt does if you have time to respond 24/7.
shareWow, I didn't know there were only a few minutes in a day.
The more you know!
Didn't say that.
shareLook out everyone, we now have a literalist here.
shareNope.
shareWhen it takes you over two weeks to write one word, it might be time to stop breathing oxygen.
shareWrong.
shareWhen you're 31 and still engaging in internet drama, that's a sign your life hasn't gone the way you planned it.
shareWhy is that?
There are people in their 60's and 70's engaging in Internet drama moron. Look at Donald Trump.
Why is that?
There are people in their 60's and 70's engaging in Internet drama moron. Look at Donald Trump.
I resent this comment. My life is the *beep* but I still partake.
Then again, I'm only 30.
"somebody used to live here"
Cheers m8!
shareI felt like Richard Schiff's character in Lost World didn't deserve to die in a somewhat gut wrenching way. Bad things happen to people.
It's a great day for American everybody!
Well, RE: the deaths in Lost World, I always thought the deaths of the 'Marlborough Men' as being so annoying-they had to be 'naughty'(Arliss Howard was the Greedy corporate tool;Peter Stormare was the cruel merc who tazed the 'compy', the rest of the 'mercs' were 'raping nature') so they all "deserved" deaths-but the death of the Bob Bakker 'clone' was without a doubt the dopiest. Maybe the Vince Vaughn character should have been eaten too.
Why can't you wretched prey creatures understand that the Universe doesn't owe you anything!?
Eddie's death was needlessly gratuitous too. Bad things happen to good / inoffensive characters in these movies, but they're usually done with a degree of finesse to avoid leaving the audience with a bad taste in their mouths. The deaths of Eddie, Udesky, and Zara are all out of place and hurt the tones of their movies.
shareNo, they're fictional animals controlled by a screenwriter and a director. They only kill who their creators want them to kill.
Incidentally, the raptors only did kill bad men. If you're too afraid to kill the main characters, then keep the deaths consistent and kill just the antagonists and nameless expendables. If you're going to kill a character who didn't deserve it, then kill more characters who didn't deserve it. When you have only one character with an undeserved fate and everyone else who either placed themselves in danger and / or got what was coming to them, the former is out of place with the rest of the movie. If this was done the way I wanted it, Claire and Zach would have died.
shareNow I have to buy the "limited edition" Blu-ray with 15 more minutes of Zara scenes. I still feel she wasnt the worst death in a JP movie. I still feel Muldoon was as bad or worse then Zara's death. But they didnt drag it out as long.
shareDamn Compys were aggressive as hell. They doggedly stalked him out.
You hear that? Hear that tone you're using? That's penis repellent right there!
Yea but in a disaster situation like that one, really who "deserves" to die a certain way and who doesnt? the worker inside the I-Rex paddock had a brutal death too if you think about it.
I had no problems with any of the deaths, it makes little difference to me whether the character had 50 minutes of screentime or 5. "When you gotta go, you gotta go."
The thing is, you bond emotionally with certain characters, and you begin to care, this is one of the reasons, for me, why she didn't deserve to die. She was a not a villain, she didn't do anything wrong...
"And he who controls the battlefield, controls history."
But in situations like these, in real life, things arent black and white man. There are no rules as to who goes or how or when, it just goes down the way it goes down. Was her death a bit over te top? Sure, i can see that. But im not buying that her death was more unfair and unjustified than the two workers in the I-Rex paddock scene, all 3 were human beings caught in the wrong place at the wrong time imo
shareThis isn't real life. This is a summer blockbuster we watch to escape from real life. Did you see any kids dying?
shareWtf do kids have to do with this?? Im just not getting why this zara character's death is causing so much apparent controversy, what difference does it make that her character went the way she did? Should it have been some extra? Should it have been a main character?? Why does it matter?? I certainly didnt think much of it when i saw the film, at least not any more than i did the other deaths
shareYou said "in situations like these, in real life, things arent black and white" and "there are no rules as to who goes or how or when." Problem is, this movie is not an accurate representation of reality. There are rules present; namely children and main protagonists cannot die. So if the movie wasn't trying to emulate a real life version of this scenario, there was no reason to kill Zara the way she was killed. She only died because she was a minor character whom the blockbuster formula allowed to die. And her death was a lot more drawn out than the two workers' deaths. The first worker died off-screen and the second was killed with a quick chomp. Zara had to deal with falling from a great height that could have killed her and nearly being drowned before the Mosasaurus ended her life.
shareThis movie was the closest to reality it could without breaking those rules you mentioned.
shareAs a blockbuster, the movie could never be close to reality. What's the point of even trying to be an accurate representation of this scenario when you can't go all the way?
shareYou don't need to go all the way to make a point.
shareAnd what's that point? That anyone can be killed in a dinosaur attack? So long as the kids survive, that point is not made.
shareKilling kids on screen can be disturbing for some audiences, killing a character of little relevance like Zara is the closest they could do to make a point, so for me it was enough.
shareKilling Zara doesn't make a point about dinosaurs being dangerous because pretty much everyone knew she was going to die. In order to truly make that point, you have to kill someone who would normally survive this type of movie. Having the kids die obviously will offend certain viewers, but it would successfully demonstrate that aforementioned point. In real life, kids die in chaotic scenarios.
shareI didn't want to bump this stupid thread, but seriously dude, STFU. What is the big problem that the bland no name assistant gets it? Why are people so sensitive? Did you care when the heroic Eddie got chomped in TLW? His death was far worst and way more unfair. I don't give a fck about Zar-ah. Is it because it's a woman? Jesus.
"Some men are coming to kill us. We're gonna kill them first."
I didn't want to bump this stupid thread, but seriously dude, STFU.
Both deaths were horrible and undeserved. Eddie was a more fleshed out character, but that doesn't take away from the awfulness of Zara's fate. At least Eddie being ripped in half was somewhat relevant to the plot (it satisfied the Rexes' hunger and ended their pursuit of the protagonists), but it was still a cruel and mean-spirited way to remove him from the movie and arguably worse demise than Zara's. With Zara, her death was pretty much unnecessary and had no reason to be as prolonged as it was. End of the day, these scenes deserve to be criticized for how unfairly they treated the characters.
shareIf you already knew she was going to die, what are you discussing about?
shareI'm discussing how she died and why it was unnecessary and mean-spirited. Like I've said before, if the point was to demonstrate the danger the characters were in, it didn't work because you knew Zara was doomed to begin with. In order to prove nobody is safe, you have to kill someone whom you'd expect to survive.
shareDude, they did it to show that nature is scary, powerful, and ultimately, uncaring. Good person, bad person, nature makes no distinction. Meat is meat, instincts are instincts. Yes, I know it was the director's decision to portray it that way, but he did that to let you bond a little bit with a character, then see them mercilessly torn to shreds by dinosaurs who do not care.
shareYet nature cared to predictably not harm the children or anyone important. It didn't kill those you knew were going to survive in a summer blockbuster. This one attempt at being edgy stands out like a sore thumb because the rest of the movie follows conventions. Plus, it doesn't help that the said character was a redshirt you knew was going to die anyways.
shareHe gets stomped, some probably had their spines broken hitting those trees, some had the wind knocked out immediately by the I-rex's tail and at least two were chomped down on.
You hear that? Hear that tone you're using? That's penis repellent right there!
However, most of them died instantly and they were willingly placing themselves in a dangerous scenario.
shareZara didn't do anything wrong other than take or make a phone call at the wrong time and then lost track of the kids. It was Her one job at that moment.
In this movie we have less Michael Criton type explaining about how wrong it is to attempt to control nature. Instead we have it shown to us with the gene splicing of the most dangerous predators that have been recorded.
I thought Zara was attractive and she seemed professional from the few things we saw her do but she was meant to be less able to climb the corporate ladder than Claire.
Claire was just right. Glad this movie is doing well. The director did the right things with her when she was prepping for her meeting with the investors/advertisers. She reminded me a lot of the succesfull Pepper Potts from the begining of the recent Ironman series.
They both would have been fired or resigned anyway the next business day when the company went bankrupt.
Yes Zara's death was violent but she did not suffer through a long period with a fatal desease which might have been spread through various biological experiments.(Plagues like WW Z or the Planet of the Apes reboot).
Perhaps we saw this tossing of Zara rather than crushed human bodies from a stampede or more carcases from predators acting like dingos in a flock of sheep.
I don't think it's a "terrible decision" but I do wish they hadn't done that. It was too disturbing imo.
shareTake that Verizon!
shareThere have been some pretty horrific deaths in this series, I just think this is one they focused more closely on. In its defense, it wasn't a particularly bloody death, but when you think about being bandied about between two pterosaurs, almost falling to your death and then being chomped by the Mesosaur...
That is a pretty bad way to go. And if you put yourself in her shoes as I'm sure many audience members will, then it is a rough thing to think about dealing with. So I can understand people not liking to see Zara's death occur that way. But I don't think it was a bad decision to include this in the movie.
I don't know if you're aware of this but I've already changed things. I killed Ben Linus.
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