Great Movie


I am really surprised about this movie, I dont know why I decided to rent this but I certainly dont regret it.

Really great work by the kid, it's too bad that he is not going to have any chances to shine but if he was born in the US he will be in the cover of hundreds of magazines.

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That's not true. I'm from macedonia and i think we have potential. And the world doesn't revolve around America ok? If he was born in the US he would have been a junkee. One's destiny is not changed by the place that he's born in. He would have been miserable even if he was born in the US. The US is not that great as you say.
And stop saying bad things about a country that u didn't even knew it existed 5 or 6 years ago. Ok? I can say the US is worse than macedonia (which is true) but i won't cause i've never been to the US and I won't judge it. U shouldn't judge my country too. Think about it. The US may be the richest and most powerfull country on earth. But how many Americans die in Irak? And no one cares. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. When a Macedonian is killed people here ACTUALY care. That's what we do. Look out for each other. But you on the other hand kill each other. And i have lots of things to say about the US but this isn't the time nor the place. And if you have a problem with Macedonians then u should crawl in your crappy home and think about how shallow you are.
P.S. Macedonia's older than America which makes it a better place.
P.P.S. America is actualy made of Indians and British people. And theese people aren't called Americans. But on the other hand Macedonians have always been Macedonians. Macedonia hasn't been populated by imigrants.
Soooo you do the math who's better. C yaa

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First of all, mir788 didn’t say anything bad about Macedonia, in contrary he said that the movie was great (which I don’t agree with), and the director deserves more attention from the media.

Second, you say you don’t judge US but that’s exactly what you do. BTW, aren’t there junkies in Macedonia?????

Third, Macedonia clamed it’s independence in 1991. How did you figure out that it’s older then US???

Fourth, in Macedonia there are: Albanians, Gypsies, Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks, Vlachs, Turks, of course Macedonians, Jews, but no it’s not just Macedonians.

P.S. Please, take your anger elsewhere, please

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Macedonia may have claimed independence from the Yugoslav federation in 1991 but is over 3000 years old as an ethnic and/or geographic entity.

I do however agree with the rest of your post except for the part where you disagree with the film not being great.

There is obviously a language barrier there so... just leave the idiot alone.

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i'm deeply sorry to remind you but where do u think Alexander the Great is from exactly??? The US? When he ruled most of the world the US weren't even DISCOVERED. And we weren't a colony before we became someone. U on the other hand were an english colony. And let me ask u this what about the other people that live in america? U aren't all americans u know. the only thing u know how to do right is making a joint so lay off! k?

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kiki bt2005,

1) Learn to read and write English properly before you continue making all of us (Macedonians) look like idiots by responding to posts that you are misinterpreting.

2) Mir788 wasn't insulting Macedonia or Marko Kovacevic. He merely said that Marko Kovacevic's talent will be under appreciated and he will not get the proper respect and exposure because he is Macedonian. He also mentioned that had Marko been an American his face would be on every magazine and he would have been revered as a "great new actor".

3) CcK5 was correct about everything except for the actual age of Macedonia (and I corrected him without insulting him). He was right about Macedonia having its share of problems also... drugs, crime, corruption, instability, poverty, etc... I know because I'm from Bitola Macedonia.


4) As much as you may hate to admit this... if you had the opportunity your ass would be on a plane to the United States in a hearbeat (to earn those American dollars) if you had the chance.

America is screwing up the world... no doubt about that... but this is a forum about movies - not geopolitics.


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i jas sum od bitola. i ne e ni cudo so si prodaena dusa. tuku gi branis ovie amerikancistata a nas ne gazis. i ako ti si vo amerika ili planiras da odis ne znaci deka site sakame. i makedonija ne e nisto podolu od amerika. to da ti e jasno. i ne tuku mi se zanesvaj da pisis angliski (se razbiram ne se sekiraj) ko mnogu ubo znajs deka i jas sum od makedonija. aj nemozam pojke so glupaci ko vas da se raspravam. najmnogu mrazam prodaeni luge, a ti si eden od niv.
byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Ako rabirashe Angliski ke znajese shto pishese Mir 788. Za Iluzija pishese deka bese odlicen film. Isto pisha za Marko. Isto vremeno reche deka ako bil Marko amerkanski glomec ke beshe na svetot kachen et sega so negovijo talent. Od kaj ne podsena nas so sto rece?

Ti sto po sto ne go razbra coveko.

Jas zivejam bo Kanada (tuka sum od 1973 godina a zivejev edna godena vo Bitola vo 1988) a roden sum vo Bitola. Na ovaj forum se razgovori za filmoj a ne politika.

Opulise okolu tebe i ke vidis koj a prodaj Makedonija. Vija se navedivte i gi ostajvte amerikansite i siptarite dave ebajt vo gazot... i seja mi se lutite. Kade bre.

Se prodatovte vo Aracinevo i vo Ohrid za Amerikanski dolari i seja ce borite vo Irak za niv? Makedonska vojska ne smeja da vlezi vo Tetovo a smeja da se bori vo Bagdad.

Koj e kurvata. Kazi mi.



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ti si. oti jas perfektno go razbrav so pisi. rece deka ako bese vo amerika ke bese mnogu poznat. demek vo makedonija ne e poznat. site go znat. a ti so nemas dojdeno 1000 god da ne zboras po mnogu. prvo ela vidi so e rabotata pa zboraj. nas tuka ni e epten arno. a ti od so si prodaena dusa ne znajs MAKEDONSKI da zboras a makedonec se narekvas! lugeto ko tebe se sram za makedonija.

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Toj ne ja podsena Makedonija ko rece deka ako bese Americanec ke bese poznat. Ako go rasbirase angleski jazik ke snajese deka so to je podcena Amerika. Go rece to so zalost.

Jac bev vo Makedonija lani. Vidov luge i zemja razocharana. Mozika srpska, amerikanska i grcka vo cafanite. Golem zalost za Tito i za Jugoslavija. Zname prodadeno. Zemja dadena na siptarski teroristiti . Albanski znamina letat nad drzavni zgradi. Lube Boskovski i Johan Tarcolovski se zatvor vo holandija a Ali Ameti pije kafe so to kopileto Branko i ta curvata Ilinka vo Skopje. Vo koja druga drzava ovije paboti ke mozat da ce desat? Kazimi? Nekade druzde odsem Makedonija.

Ili si bogat ili siromav. Nema stredna clasa vo Makedonija. Ako si bogat sve e arno sekada. 40 na sto od narodot se bez pabota i uste mislis deka sve e eptem arno. Koj go lazis. Mozi za tebe e arno ama za 90 na sto od narodot neje. Taka mi se vede mene. Koga imas ti dojdeno vo severna amerika da znajes kako zivejeme nije tuka. Nije vo Kanada gi mrazime amerikansite pojke od so gi mrazite vije. Zato nemame vojnici vo Irak.

Mozi ne znam Makedonski ami barem to mozam da go priznavam i ne skokam da se karam za nesto sto ne razbiram. Mozi zi mislis deka snajes angliski ama ne mas pojma.

Prvi i posledno - zgreshe i koga ti objasnav deka zgrese mi skokna.
















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Are you guys (kiki_bt2005 & MAK_CDN) conversing in Macedonian or Klingon?

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A little bit of both.

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da bese vo amerika marko. ama ne e. vo makedonija e i super mu e. nema "so ke se desese da bese vo amerika" - ke stanese uste eden krenat glup glumec so nosot da mu padni ne si go zema. a vo makedonija mu e preubo!

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darn tootin!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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America's melting pot is a strength, not a weakness.

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I agree with you... we have the exact opposite here in Canada (mosaic to your melting pot) and you should see the way it's backfired.

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Maybe... But melting pots make an amorph liquid as a final result. And this is what is becoming of Americans. And the biggest, tragic trouble is that some people want it to happen, with all brains melted as well, so these few people could live and think instead of those melted majority.

So far I see more people able to think in Canada than across its southern border.

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Wow! If you are a typical citizen of Macedonia, then you live in an incredibly ignorant country!

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And how did you decide that?

Kreteni edni mameto da vi go ebam, ne kur se karajte pred kretenive stranski. Ne deka razbiraat, jas ne mozam da vi gi citam sranjata. Kiki, so mu e tolku ubavo vo Makedonija na Marko? Da bese tipceto vo Amerika sege ke bese dzvezda, so uste pojaka kariera pred nego i pari koi ovde ne moze ni da gi sonuva. Ne zatoa sto Amerika e podobra, tuku zatoa sto ima pojak pazar. Odenjeto tamu ne te pravi predavnik ni najmalku. Ostanuvanjeto ovde te pravi mazohist. Takvo dete kako Marko, vo Amerika moze samo da ja promovira nasata kultura i nasata umetnost. A ni eden od vas ne zboruva makedonski. Dvajcata zborite Bitolski, sto e mnogu daleku od literaturniot Makedonski jazik.:) (mala zakacka na megjugradska osnova) (bez ljutenje:)!

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You misunderstood. He wasn't saying the real-life kid would have been on the cover of magazines, but the actor Marko Kovacevic who performed beautifully (and is rather beautiful as well). Having said that, the original post is somewhat Amerocentric, implying that one can only "shine" if recognized by the US media.

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There was no misunderstanding... we were referring to the actor not the character in the movie.

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I mean the original post and the first reply. The original post was about the actor and the reply is about the character. But I responded to the wrong post apparently, so nevermind.

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Man you suck. You completely missed the point. An yeah I'm from Macedonia too. And I'm not writing in Macedonian because I want everyone to understand me (though you would probably say it's because i'm a traitor?). The man made a comment about the high quality of the movie, and that it's shame that the kid most likely won't get the same chances he would've gotten in a highly developed film industry. Whether that's true or not is to an extent debatable (though i would say that it is true), and all the rest you wrote about indians and immigrants is idiotic and besides the point.
Macedonia is older than America and that's what makes it better? The oldest civilizations were on the territory of what is now Iraq, and i guess that makes Iraq the best place in the world according to you. You suck seriously. Go heal your complexes elsewhere and please when you make a fool of yourself again don't claim to speak for everyone in Macedonia.

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I think this movie depicts how much alike our two cultures are. America has many urban/downtrodden areas (especially these days). The mom's spirit is broken, the dad's drowning his woes, the sister takes it out on Marko, He's bullied because he's different and isolated. The one man (teacher) who has given Marko hope lets him down. He becomes broken down, loses hope, acts out and is lost. The community/country loses a jewel, something that could have been good. How many jewels have we lost here in America to similar circumstances? It's all very sad.

I'm glad to have finally seen this great movie. I don't think I will want to see it again

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It is a GREAT movie. I saw it last night and its last scene is still making me wonder about these facets in life. A SUPERB performance by Marko Kovacevic. His facial expressions are amazing, especially if we take into account how he was when the movie started and how he ended.

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