this movie made me want to vomit


Such disgusting, evil, vile *beep* imagery and plot. It made me want to cry and puke and scream all at the same time. I don't understand how anyone could enjoy watching this kind of filth, even to give yourself a better perspective of abuse. All in all this movie was just plain *beep* terrible and I wish I had never lain eyes upon it.

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It goes to show how a child will imitate, believe, and concieve, virtually anything an adult tells them.

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Well if thats how you all feel I suggest you stay as far awy from the book as possible. Its even more disturbing.

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thanx for tellin me

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Not everyone lives the well-adjusted, comfy, suburban life that you do...



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no they don't...

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Ugh, I hate responses like this. First of all, you're assuming that the OP lives a "well-adjusted, comfy, suburban life". Second, even if that were the case it doesn't mean that their opinion is any less valid (not saying I agree with it or not).

It's almost as if people say comments like yours as a way to dismiss anyone who even remotely disapproves of the film.

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only 1 weak response though? I'm disappointed in myself... :)

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Yup. Not everyone can stand the truth about how life is, Seems like a lot of people just like living in denile and then freak out a little when they see the world for what it is. The Book was way different then the movie, movie left a lot of stuff out. I kinda got mad about the number of people who watched the movie, bc lots of people did not read the book first, and a lot of the peeps who saw the movie where preteen girls and boys who only watched the movie bc the Sprouse Twins are in it. And the movie has a lot more to it, then them boys. I dunno Guess they helped get the name of it out there tho.
But ya book/movie both where sick, if you ant got the guts to read/see real life stuff don't do it and just keep reading the backs of cereal boxes and watching cartoons, leave the real life for the people who can handle it.

I'm Stuck somewhere between heaven and hell

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Um... so what Theholygrasshopper's saying is if I want to read about real life, I got to read about a crossdressing boy who's trying to get molested? Sorry, no. Child abuse exist, I'm aware of that. So's global warming, HIV, famine and a whole lot of fun stuff. Does it means that I'm going to go around learning about every HIV infected life's story? no. I know HIV exist and should be prevented. There, done!

With that said, I agree: THIS MOVIE DID MAKE ME WANT TO VOMIT. Every freaking body knows child abuse is wrong so there is no need for more awareness. Watching this movie was a chore. I cant believe two Disney icons took part in such filth. What was the writer thinking? What were the movie makers thinking? "Dude! I read this book about a little boy who's getting the sh*t abused out of him... Let's make it into a movie!"

All this movie did was make my stomac turn as the scenes kept getting worse and worse. So I ask you: now that I know what's in store for me, why the heck should I be interrested in the -extended and uncensored- book version? Answer: I got no reason at all. I'm not going to read this anymore than I'm going to read the Satanic bible, or Adolph Hitler: I have a dream, or Bin Ladden: My Memoirs. They just don't agree with my values. I can get enlighten by far superior works, thank you.

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Yup that there is another reason why i liked this book, Its so controversial no one like anyone else option on it but there own.
it's kinda odd to me tho. Why did so many people read the book get sick by it and then watch the movie ?
Or read part of the book hate it, or see part of the movie hate and not finish it and then go look it up and imdb.com just state there option and something they did not like.
Now on stuff i don't like. i don't go looking for people talking about it just so i can tell them i don't like it. Sure if someone brings it up around me i well voice my option. I dunno to each there own i guess
Main reason i guess why i liked this book/movie. well really i did not like the movie i felt it was poorly directed. but i did like the book, sure parts of it pissed me off really bad but i just could not put it down, But like i was saying when i first read this book i wanted to be a Child psychologist or a social worker So really this book was more research for me then anything else.
Anyways Thx MechaSonic for replaying to me and adding me in your post, This was the first movie i posted on and enjoyed seeing someone replay to something i said so soon, Take Care

I'm Stuck somewhere between heaven and hell

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Eye on the TV
Cause tragedy thrills me
Whatever flavor
It happens to be

Like:
"Killed by the husband"
"Drowned by the ocean"
"Shot by his own son"
"She used a poison in his tea
and kissed him goodbye"
That's my kind of story.
It's no fun 'til someone dies

Don't look at me like
I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the TV
Stare like a zombie
While the mother holds up her child,
Watches him die

Hands to the sky crying,
"Why, oh why?!"

Cause I need to watch things die
From a distance
Vicariously, I
Live while the whole world dies
You all need it too - don't lie.

Why can't we just admit it?-tool Vicarious

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DAAMMMMNNNN....! We got people writing poems up in here! Funny, it makes me think of a french saying: "Quand on se regarde on se désole, mais quand on se compare on se console." Rough translation: "When you look at yourself you feel sorry, but when you compare yourself you find confort." You know, when I think about it I think the English equivalent is "Misery loves company."

I'd like to thank Theholygrasshoper for the reply. I too didn't expect such a speedy reply. (Actually, I was expecting some dumb troll to come and comment but it's nice to be wrong.) So I'm just going to set the record straight about some things.
First, don't feel like I'm attacking you in my post because it's not my style: I will challenge something you say if I really don't agree with you though.
Second, what you said was right. After I saw this movie I went straight to imdb.com to express my feelings. Why? well because this is the biggest movie site in the world and I wanted the max number of people to hear what I got to say. I don't want you to think that I singled you out because of anything, you were just the latest poster on the thred at the time.
Third, when you say something like: [...if you ant got the guts to read/see real life stuff don't do it and just keep reading the backs of cereal boxes and watching cartoons, leave the real life for the people who can handle it.] you're asking for a reply. I just got there first, that's all.

I was going to write something anyway because this movie if part of a very ungly trend that I'm seeing more an more: movies to shock people. Do we really need that? Do we need horrific images shoved down our throats just to get a message across? We have a commercial here about a speeding guy who gets into an accident, you see him with blood and window shard all over his face. Then the paramedics bring him to the hospital where they perform an open heart surgery but they fail and he chokes in his own blood. It finishes with his wife and daughter crying in the waiting room.

See that steaming sh*t excuse for a commercial runs at all hours of the day. Yes, even between the Saturday morning cartoons. It's not that I don't think speeding is dangerous but when terror becomes your way of communicating with people, it doesn't say much about you.

Peace Out.

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(Actually, I was expecting some dumb troll to come and comment but it's nice to be wrong.)

That's me!

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No worries i did not even really think you where attacking me, I only really replayed kinda was bc of when you said "Every freaking body knows child abuse is wrong"
See i got on youtube a lot and was in the big fight with some dude about child abuse being wrong, he felt it was not wrong as long as the child did not get hurt, bc he was abused and he feels he turned out ok, so he dose not see that really he is kinda *beep* up. And the Video that i got fighting with him was about this movie, one sec let me find the link to that site..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUmdg96qjzM

The dudes name is "Lebenskraft" So i just got kinda mad when you said "Every freaking body knows child abuse is wrong" and posted back to you but i try ed to not take any anger out on you. i was just upset with this dude.
But ya you did make good points on how they don't really need to show movies like this that much bc people already know about it. and i have not yet seen that commercial you mentioned yet, But ya they really don't need to show that during children programing.
But anyways no worries man i did not feel like i was being attacked, even tho even it did seem that way, i really would not care that much, other then the guy on youtube i talked about I'm not in to fighting with people over a computer. When someone try to pick a fight on a website or aim, i just give them my address and till them if they want to be that way about it to come on over and we can settle it in my backyard, and i don't even have to worrie about someone showing up at my front door. bc the way i see it, If you have to fight with someone on the computer that shows that you wont do sh*t to anyone in real life, but i did not get the feeling from you, You where just expressing your opinion and with that i have no problem with at all
And Also i like your comment bc since i saw this movie i have wanted to talk to someone about it, And on all theses bored people really don't have much to say, Most of what i have seen on the bored with this movie was about the sprouse twins.
But ya no worries at all, take care

I'm Stuck somewhere between heaven and hell

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To agree somewhat with previous posters, I must say that I also am getting so damn tired of all this "shock" horror. At one point it isn't shocking anymore but unoriginal and tasteless. And then try to pitch the whole, " Oh, we're just doing it for realism, trying to depict what REALLY goes on in the world." Bullsh*t!!! The only reason they fill movies with that is to be "edgy" and "different", and to try to draw in people. If they want realism, why don't they show fat people. I don't mean to be rude to those who are overweight, but what the hell. Maybe there's some different world that producers and directors live in where everyone is slim and toned, happy and hot, or scrawny drug addicts who indulge in cannibalistic tendencies and pedophilia (not that this movie had cannibalism, I'm just giving examples). To put it simply, the really sad stuff that does go on in the world should not be ignored, but should not be glorified as well.

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i think this movie is supposed to be disturbing and to show you what horrible things happen to kids. i want to say something else but i cant get the words right...

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the only reason i watched this "movie" is because i saw jeremy sisto's name in the credits. he was only in it for five minutes. this movie was awful. it was confusing. when it ended, i was thinking "wtf?" it was a total waste of time. sorry to all those who liked it, but i thought it was awful.

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No one ever said art has to be in good taste. For something to be beautiful, you don't need to shower it in glitter then bathe it in syrup. That said, if you think the movie simply wasn't very good, or that it was too unrealistic or whatnot, as I actually did, that's perfectly fine. But "It was too shocking" or "it was too disturbing" doesn't strike me as a legitimate reason to dislike a movie. I found this one to be pretty tame. It was way too over-the-top to really get under my skin.

The following statement is true:
Jesus, this is freaking cliche.

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Dont you love how people get offended by depictions of real life? I see comments like, "people know abuse goes on, they don't need to SEE the graphic details!" Yeah, because just abstractly "knowing" or acknowledging that something occurs will lead to just as much distortion and misperception as not knowing at all. We need to be pained, and to experience the realism and grit of a situation before we can truly appreciate and analyze it. And yes, the book is FAR more graphic than the movie.
One poster mentioned that this movie/book is a great portrayl of how a childw will adapt and relate to even the most vile and unhealthy of circumstances in order to survive and connect with those around them - such a good point! I think its neccessary to witness the profound psychology of such adaptation. It's wrenching to see this child embrace such gratuitous abuse - and all in order to use it as a way to bond to his mother. The story shows us that the neccessity of love and seeking spiritual connection is sometimes more powerful and important to the soul, than the neccessity of survival and health. Now that's something that many books and movies have not explored.

The poster above me mentioned something essential too - art isn't always just a pretty picture unless you're in an elementary school drawing class! Art is expression that is free of the boundaries of limit and objective definition - it makes us feel, but not neccessarily good. Sometimes the most beautiful revelations come from pain and banality, because this is the bricks and mortar of fragile human existence. Sometimes the most lucid and defining moments of humanity are created through the harrowing journey into base and chaotic world of despair, ugliness and heartache. And in order to truly appreciate and understand the true potential of love, we must be prepared to explore and acknowledge cruelty and its reprocussions in it's most potent and vile moments.


LOL btw - I saw someone say that this movie/book is sick and would probably be just as awful as the Satanic Bible - I suggest they read the Satanic Bible, they 'd probably be surprised to discover that it's in fact one of the most colorful and insightful philosophical theses on the human condition and the need for individuality to have ever been put to paper!


"You're maudlin and full of self-pity. You're magnificent!"
-- George Sanders, All About Eve

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ok i have a problem when you said that you wouldn't go read hitler or the satanic bible
i have read the satanic bible and its nothing. its just saying how christianity is lies nothing to contreversial or things people didn't already know it just says how god heaven and hell are all make believe and each is their own god so whats wrong with that??? it makes common sense! this book however yeah it had alot more worse themes and thats why people read it because its interesting and i think everyone should wake up and see how screwed up our world is. this is one of the best films ive seen and one of the best books ive read and if you don't like it maybe you should go back to disney channel

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Because it's important to face the reality of other people's situations and listen when people want to tell their stories. It's easy to passively agree that child abuse is wrong, take the easy way out by never really exploring the reality of it and putting yourself through the heart ache of understanding what it really means.

This movie was not supposed to be entertaining, but thought provoking, disturbing, and heart-wrenching. It was supposed to put you in the shoes of a lost, scared, and confused little boy who is subject to abuse and neglect. Because let's face it, many people have the privilege of growing up with caring parent(s) and could never dream of this type of upbringing. So it exposes those people to an understanding that they would never otherwise have.

It could also give other abuse victims a sense of comfort, knowing they're not alone, and seeing their similar struggles gaining some attention.

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"I'm not going to read this anymore than I'm going to read the Satanic bible, or Adolph Hitler: I have a dream"


The "I Have a Dream" speech was spoken by Martin Luther King, Jr.

Adolf Hitler wrote "Mein Kampf".

What a mix-up.

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I watched this movie not for the Sprouse twins, but for Jimmy Bennett (young Jermiah). I think he did an AWESOME job in the film and the Sprouse twins aswell. I am soo glad that C & D Sprouse have at least one non-Disney production under their belts so we all know that they can indeed act very well.

But i was just blown away by Jimmy's performance, 7 years old and he nearly had me crying on multiple occassions. One of the reasons why i never liked this film at first is because while (apart from the red bird scenes) it was perfect talent-wise, the actual story just upset me beyond belief and the fact that he just jumps back in her car again at the end, just ruined it for me.

I'm not really a fan of watching a painfully cute, angelic little boy get abused beyond belief and still struggle to believe that a mother could treat her own son in such a way,

but once i look past all that i realise that this is actually a very good film because while the story is painful and sickening, the fact that its conveying all of that to me soo well pretty much proves its a excellent film.

Jimmy Bennett and Cole and Dylan Sprouse should have won awards for their performances in this film.

Books and movies are apples and oranges, there both delicious but dont taste the same (Steven King)

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Ha ha *blip* you *blip*ing fascist, moralist *blip*. It makes me happy to see you suffer. *blip* you!

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I really enjoyed American History X. Is that wrong? Does that mean that I condone and enjoy racism? Does that make me Hilter?

You sir, are and idiot. :/

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I did not like this movie. Child abuse, family dysfunction, rape are not high on my list for topics I want to see covered in a movie. I watched this because someone I know recommended it but it was utter crap.

Argento can do better than this, and hopefully her next film will be more entertaining and less depressing.

Mike

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It was disturbing, i wanted to cry during alot of parts but im glad it was made. Its one thing to know such a life exists its another to witness it. Or atleast witness a realistic view of it. Think about the children that actually happens to.

I don't eat animals. =D Woo.

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Ah Marvelous, call it realistic. C'mon... It is sensational to you watching it from your secure surroundings. Escapism? You mean glad it isn't you - well that's fair.

One just need to know there is a line one shouldn't cross, not knowing how it looks like on the other side - that is the whole point. But not to some filmmakers. Like I knew the system of stealing, until I realised I shouldn't. I stopped. Now I don't anymore, and I realised I wouldn't know how that system works anymore. That's good, it's improvement, I do not need nor want to go back. Poeple are fascinated and ask me how - it is sensational for them. You will know how that system works or need to learn when you're in that place. But you are not and you shouldn't want to be in that place.

Is Wynona Ryder being cute and silly here? Ah... decent is dull, is that the point?

So the trashy part is realiticilly filmed, and the social workers part is silly filmed and portrayed. Thast is really awful...

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Well I've never seen this movie just previews on youtube and from that alone I knew this is a movie that I will never watch infact I'll die before I watch this as I couldn't even watch the previews with feeling sick. knowing what that poor boy was going through. You can't call something this sick art, if thats the case I'll throw up and film it and then all you sickos can call that art. I take child abuse very seriously and have no desire to see it on film as I am well aware of it and do know that it goes on on a daily basis I dont need a film to know this and neither should anyone else just read the news. I am so against garbage like this and would only be caught paying for it if I knew the proceeds were going to a organization that is against this type of thing but I will not put money in peoples pocket so they can make a living off of glorifying such a horrific act against children

yes I have a dog, it's like living with a bum

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You can't call something this sick art, if thats the case I'll throw up and film it and then all you sickos can call that art.
There's a lot of people who try to define "art", but I think the most universal definition for it is something that alters your perceptions (makes you feel differently, see differently, hear differently, etc). That's one thing this movie definitely had in spades. It's hard to watch it and not come away feeling like your soul was singed a bit.

This movie might have made you feel upset, but to quote Giovanni Ribisi, "You should get upset. Everyone should get upset! When Hitler was greasing the Jews, people were saying "Hey man, don't get me upset, you're bumming me out." It's my responsibility to get you upset because people never get off their asses to change things unless they're pissed off!"

The lesson I took away from this movie was that drugs and religion can both screw a person up with equal effectiveness. This movie really touched on an important point with regards to religion that I think most people overlooked (most simply assumed that the point of the movie was, "raping kids isn't cool bro"... duhhh, do you really need to watch a whole movie to figure that out?)

In the course of my own life, the most messed up people I've known have always had super religious parents for some reason. Perhaps when love seems so conditional ("you better act this way or you're out of our family and you'll go to hell!!") people have a tendency to reject everything they've ever been taught, especially if they feel like they're starting to stray from their parents belief system. Who knows? But I'm very familiar with people who have ultra religious parents who are often very messed up emotionally. I think that maybe when our mind is indoctrinated to believe something from a very young age, it becomes ridiculously hard to change without feeling guilty later in life unless we numb our underlying feelings of "I'm doing something wrong" with the aid of various mind altering drugs and/or intoxicants.

Either way, the movie to me was about a child who was stuck between two equally unloving environments and both environments, ultimately, were born in a bed of religious dogma.

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The lesson I took away from this movie was that drugs and religion can both screw a person up with equal effectiveness. This movie really touched on an important point with regards to religion that I think most people overlooked (most simply assumed that the point of the movie was, "raping kids isn't cool bro"... duhhh, do you really need to watch a whole movie to figure that out?)

This is what made me decide to watch this film.

TEAM JACOB

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m_deneault, you may not like what your seeing, but does that mean that someone who has had a hard life can't tell their story? just because its hard for others to hear, see or experience? Maybe rather then watching this film thinking of only your self, and the effect of this film on you, you should think about Jeremiah (even if he is fictional) or others like him, who experience this in real life, right now, every day. Its hard to comprehend I suppose. I understand when you say 'Do we need horrific images shoved down our throats just to get a message across?' Its true too. I mean child abuse is horrible, I certainly don't know how you can explore such a subject, do you? How would you get a message across to someone about something so terrible other than showing people this terror? but, I mean we can't just...ignore it surely? I mean maybe, your reaction to this film, this 'make me want to vomit' reaction, is what the filmmakers want - an extreme reaction like that might just change the way you see things. The next time you see a kid in suspicious circumstances on the street, next door - who knows? you might just do something about it, maybe you won't, but maybe somebody else, somewhere else who sees this film might get a kid some help.


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Yo hello tylor I agree.
It is the same crap (but opposite) as male alpha-macho BS (like 3:10 to Yuma with The Gladiator). What IS it with the I'm soo sexy and fokable but I dress up as a junkie - to make a point?! Is it I too am like the Nirvana's ex. Fuzzy hair and fake titties and I'm still soo special? I'm blessed with making it in showbizz therefore part of popculture (daddy is a famous italian filmmaker or boyfriend is famous singer), but I know better therefore I rebel by portraying myself as a real tart in trashy surroundings. Djeez...
This is no theme, it's just showing of. Abuse sucks, ehm... yeah?
Marlon Brando can kick in a door and rape a blonde because... he decides she is his. That is accepted too. Because he is a saint, hero alphamale? Now this Asia is too cool she is hot, ehm... I do not get it. Is that okay?!

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