As a Biaggi fan, to me this was one huge rossi parade and max was made to look like a nervous loser. Its plane disgusting how the media leeches on the rivalry Biaggi and Rossi have.
I've been with this sport for over 15 years and my opinion is that this movie is biased and not actuate to the actual deal.
Bitter cuz Rossi is better
shareYou're like a republican saying "bitter cuz bush is better"
Unfortunately I think until Biaggi wins the 500cc title he will always be portrayed that way regardless of his considerable talent. Let's face it, every single one of those guys deserves the utmost respect but Rossi is, well, just that little bit special!
Will be able to comment on this particular DVD when I've actually seen it!!
Last time I checked MotoGP was alot like Formula One. But instead of follow the red Ferrari race car, its been follow the guy with "The Doctor" sewed onto his suit.
People like Rossi, he is definitly more of a fan type guy. Biag takes his job too seriously and either needs to take some time off or cool out. That whole heart rate thing was extically as I thought it was going to be. Rossi sees things just so much slower than everyone else out there. A 40 minute race for him has to seem like an eternity.
The media making a big deal out of rivalrys is what racing promotion has always been about. Look at early NASCAR with Dale Earnhardt, look at the early 90s in Moto GP. That is how a series gains more viewers. People pick a side and root for it. It brings more viewers, which brings more money, which brings better riders, which brings better racing. The US is where Moto GP is trying to break into next. First they need US riders, Edwards, Hayden and Hopkins. Now all they need is a race in the US.
Either way, I saw this on DVD tonight and it was pretty cool. Rossi is unbelievable taking the last place M1 project and winning in 04. Hayden and Edwards are still working hard. Wish that Hayden had learned a bit more from Rossi, but Ill take what I can get.
flyboard: MotoGP has a round at Laguna Seca in 2005...
shareby - maximilian000 (Sun Oct 10 2004 09:34:17 )
You're like a republican saying "bitter cuz bush is better"
One of the stupidest analogies I've ever seen. It doesn't make any sense at all. If you can't accept the fact that Rossi is an extraordinary rider and better than Biaggi, then I question if you're really a Motogp fan.
After reading this thread, I thought the film was going to be biased towards Rossi, however he wasn't in the film anywhere near as much as I was expecting. I was expecting a long interview with him, but most of what he says in the film was shown in the trailer!
Regarding Rossi vs Biaggi, now at the start of 2007,
Rossi has 1 500cc GP world title, and 4 MotoGP titles. So 5 world titles in the premier class of motorcycle racing. Biaggi has 0. Regardless of who you like better, Rossi is clearly the superior racer.
Nonetheless, I wish Biaggi well in WSBK.
If Biaggi was winning every year, then he would be the one everyone talks about. It's all about winning so I think it's very fitting that Rossi gets all the attention. He is "FASTER."
sharewell, i used to really hate Max Biaggi, but dont mind him this year (probably just 'coz I hate Gibernau more ... ... but that's another matter ... ...), any way, I think he rode well this Sunday, considering he was on his second bike and with the rain and every thing. But realistically, I can't see him beatin' Rossi
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rossi is a good racer yes, but they all are, theres a group of them at the moment that are all very good. rossi is that bit better as he has possibly the best pit team ever. his team is definately the best this year and they were last year aswell.
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"rossi is a good racer yes, but they all are, theres a group of them at the moment that are all very good. rossi is that bit better as he has possibly the best pit team ever. his team is definately the best this year and they were last year aswell"
Rossi's team aren't the best this year and they weren't last year. Yamaha was a second rate team untill Rossi joined them and still are just, according to what i've read Rossi is good at setting up the bike, and most of the commentators and former racers say the best racer of the modern era.
I mean look at the recent races Rossi is normally in second or third untill there are about 5 laps left then he gets to the lead and does the fastest laps of the race like at the British gp. where he was third then once he got the lead he was lapping 3 seconds faster than the guy in second.
the year the DVD focuses on was a Rossi year. If it had been made in a Biaggi class/year, then hey! It woulda been Biaggi's parade.
I agree with the post saying Biaggi needs to drop a chill: Rossi makes it look fun, and as they say in the DVD: 'Rossi doesn't just have Biaggi's number; he has his address, license plate and all.' Rossi, for the time being, has it all dialed.
But Nicky done good at the USGP/Laguna Seca MotoGP: the racer to watch?
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Mad Max will always be Mad Max. Period. But you have to admit he can't quite seem to keep it together like Rossi. There always comes a time when a person who is larger than life comes into his own and sets the bar higher. Max has had an awesome career, and I respect him fully, but he doesn't have "it". Rossi is an alien...he will see his demise, but for the betterment of the sport. He's like Doohan, or Schwantz. The sport for better after all those greats. I wanna see what it's like 5 years after Rossi's reign, holy crap!
shareit will be interesting to see what will be said about rossi when he does finally retire. i dont think he wil be forgotten.
and to prophit read what you said and think about it. when you know more about motorbikes and people and history, not just things that you have read in the media about these things, which is normally cr@p neways, then il bother to talk with you seriously.
cheers
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Yeah my point probably wasn't made well but, about him being the greatest rider in the modern era. If he wins the championship next year he will be the only rider to ever win the Moto GP title whilst the bikes were 1000cc.
I don't see why my understanding of people and history came into that post, although i do admit that my understanding of motorbikes isn't that good. Your comments about the media were also out of place. Yes alot of the media stuff is rubbish, but the quality of different media varies from country and which newspaper. Almost all information comes from the media.
And i stand by the comments that Rossi is a good develpment rider. He even says that he left Honda because they weren't interested in rider input, and it can't be denied that Yamaha weren't in the same league as Honda until Rossi joined.
your understanding of people and history came into the post as everything you said before was based on what you have heard through media propaganda. i am aware media accuracy varies from country to country. not all infomation comes from the media though, that is a ludicrous remake.
" i do admit that my understanding of motorbikes isn't that good" thanks for your honesty, im not trying to have a dig at you with anything said above by the way.
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Hey People,
i am 100% behind Rossi. Did you see the Qatar Race, unbe;ievable, wasn't it? i was gutted with the Turkey Race but i was still pleased Marco Melandri won. He really deserves it, he is a right trooper.
Still couldn't stop myself from egging on Rossi even though he had no chance of catching Marco. Marco was fast, Rossi' bike had some problems in practice and you could sooo tell he wasn't best pleased but i think maybe he was happy with second and his friend Marco winning.
I've tried on several occasions to support somebody else as Rossi is just too Good he is always going to come out on top. i can't though, i always find myself rooting for him.
i really wish him the best in Valencia, i hope he gets his 12th win of the season equally Mike Doohan's. i think we ought to watch out next season, he is going to be on fire to prove he IS the best rider MotoGP has had. He just needs to break a few peoples records then it will be done. He shoudl go for 13 wins in a season, all time best or what???
sorry to crash your little debate but just had to put my post in.
Rossi Lover
Can you imagine how backward it would be to make this movie about the Moto GP sport and have it be a Biaggi parade when Rossi is the one winning the races? Or what if they just left out the "small details," like who is best at the sport and who is competing with the best (i.e. Biaggi, Hopkins, McCoy, etc.). My opinion is that they did an amazing job of giving you a taste for the sport and who is involved in it. I really enjoyed hearing about the rivalry/ies (lol) and the study the doctor (not Rossi, the real MD doctor) did on Rossi and Biaggi. I thought the same thing as flyboard when he/she said: "That whole heart rate thing was extically as I thought it was going to be." It's also cool how Schwantz was Rossi's idol and Rainey was Biaggi's idol. Rossi respected the guy that simply enjoyed the sport the most (at least that's what came across), and Biaggi respected the guy who loved the sport but maybe wasn't as much of a natural at it and simply (with sheer persistence and willpower) drove himself to near perfection. There's something to be said for both approaches to anything in life. When it comes to your occupation though, I strongly believe you should do what you enjoy the most (that is what you will do the best at). I have a fascination with people who do things for the sheer joy they get out of it, and I believe that someone like Schwantz or Rossi who races in order to enjoy himself will have the slower heartbeat. It's just one of thost things. Don't get me wrong though, many people are enthralled with those who have demonstrated extreeme talent through sheer willpower. I believe life is less stressful when one aims to do the things that bring one the most joy, rather than trying to prove something to oneself or to the rest of the world. The conclusions I'm drawing here in reference to any of the racers may or may not be true (and are certainly not final). They are only preliminary observations.
sharemax said rossi wins because the honda is better.
then,max gets a sattelite team honda and says he can't win because rossis team gets the best parts.
then,to add insult to injury,the doctor takes max yamaha and beats him with that.
max came to the game later in life than val. it cannot be made up.
rossi is mozart,max salieri. still not bad.