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non-Ramones band footage questions (ELP, Dolls, Stooges, et cetera)


Can anyone identify the source of the (what I presume was) Emerson, Lake & Palmer clip which illustrated what kind of musicianship was de rigueur for rock at the time? As I remember it, someone (Emerson?) was playing a flat, theremin-like instrument, held in the air for the audience to see.

Also curious to know if the high quality New York Dolls and TV recordings of Iggy & the Stooges have been released anywhere.

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Ok, everyone, don't laugh too hard, but i was a BIG ELP fan back in the mid-70s and still have many of their vinyl albums.

ANYWAY, i'm also a Ramones fan (and listen to them a lot more than i have ELP in the past decade or two)
When i saw the Ramones movie this week, i was curious about the ELP song as well as the clip they used gave no hint of melody or such to identify it. (intentionally to make their point of how "out there" music was a the time)
My buddy and i stayed through all the credits and i saw that the track was "Knife Edge" (which you might recognize if you actually heard the song rather than the snippet of "over the top" solo they used.

After doing a bit of research, my best guess is that the clip was from a concert film titled "Pictures at an Exhibition".

Sorry i can't help you with the Stooges and Dolls clips.

good luck,
dougieieie

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I'm not laughing at ELP or any fan... as much as I love and respect the Ramones, I love ELP's music and still play it. Just because you're into punk rock doesn't mean you can't like prog, pop, r&b, etc...

Anyway, I know that some of that footage was seen before on VH1 Rockumentaries and on the PBS series "Rock & Roll: An Unruly History". I'm not sure about the ELP clip, but they have several videos that have been released over the year, some only available as imports.

The New York Dolls clip was from a TV performance on "Midnight Hour" in 1973 if I recall correctly. The Stooges footage may very well have been from some loose Super 8 footage that a fan shot because the recording is directly from the "Funhouse" album.

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Surely the Dolls clip was from the German "Musik Laden" TV show? I thought I saw the show's logo in the background.

Anyway, no-one asked about the Clash footage, but it was from the 1977 Victoria Park Hackney Anti-Nazi League festival. A great gig that was too. A bit more of the same clip can be seen in the "Story of the Clash" film.

I do wish music film makers would put more live footage in though, instead of just snippets of songs. The whole of the 1977 Rainbow gig was filmed (I was there) - OK the sound quality wasn't great but I'd really like to see the whole thing. Perhaps a bonus disc on the "End of the Century" DVD with all the live footage?

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Sure...

NY Dolls footage is from a 1973 episode of "Musik Laden", aka "Beat Club", a German TV program of the 1960s and 1970s. A lot of footage from this show has been released on both VHS and DVD many times over the years. The Dolls do "Looking for a Kiss" "Jet Boy" and "Personality Crisis", playing live in the studio (not miming). EOTC features a short clip from the former track.

Stooges footage is the famous sequence from (I think) the Cincinnati Pop Festival in 1970; this is the one where during "1970" Ig walks out on the upturned hands of the crowd and someone gives him a jar of peanut butter. You know the rest. This clip turns up on every "Story of Iggy" type show.

I don't know much about ELP but that clip is absolutely typical !

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Great info!

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