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box office performance/marketi ng


Despite opening in 175 theatres across the nation, the film does not show up in Exhibitor Relations' list of box office grosses for the weekend. Is New World choosing not to report grosses? That would be highly unusual and more than a little unprofessional.

Which would describe a lot about how this film was produced and marketed. Seriously, I respect what they're trying to do with this, and it would be fantastic for there to be a powerful teen film that addressed Christian themes. However, there's too much crammed into this film, and too much of it is stereotypical. Mr. Sims, if you read this, you have an abundance of ideas and obviously a fair amount of strength of will to get the film completed and distributed. But you need stronger editing with your script development. Your characters must be multidimensional, even when they're archetypes. Even your villian, he should be a vulnerable and weak person who has fallen for the devil's seductions, not the devil itself as you portray him in this picture. And whatever elaborate and roundabout ways you have of getting there, faith MUST have a larger role in the plot resolution, while simultaneously it can be presented more subtly. You can have a film that works as a provocative and disturbing thriller with complex, evolving characters that's still being spiritually uplifting and committed to Christ's message. It all starts with the script.

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Truly, I appreciate the sophisticated POV (point of view) in these comments by "imaginarytruths", but after all -- ECHOES OF INNOCENCE is a film about teen perceptions, emotions and issues, not some jaded, 21st century, egocentric, so-called adult who takes advantage of the public forum to display a "superior intellect".

Truly mature and sophisticated viewers are able to transcend their personal expectations and appetites in order to enter into the experience and perspective of the "other" in the frame. The things that are described as inferior in this commentary are actually the devices that work so well in this film to capture the POV (point of view) of a diverse group of teens in their "natural habitat" and depict for the audience HOW THE WORLD SEEMS TO THE YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE... It's crazy, inexplicable, frustrating, wierd, magnetic and -- once in awhile -- truly wonderful. Unless you're just too old to remember those halcyon daze...

IMHO >> a strictly formulaic and predictable story is simply, utterly BORING. Kudos to Sims and company for mixing it up!

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"Your characters must be multidimensional, even when they're archetypes. Even your villian, he should be a vulnerable and weak person who has fallen for the devil's seductions, not the devil itself as you portray him in this picture."

You've hit upon a major problem with this film, imaginarytruths. To make the heroine contend with a demon, rather than a profoundly disturbed antagonist created in the image of God, *feels* more daunting yet at the same time robs her of the chance to prove herself able to confront more interesting and complex challenges. (For example, how do you treat other people while struggling with the spiritual forces of evil, when a flesh-and-blood opponent seeks your destruction?)

Creating a complex villain is a necessary step for a storyteller who wants to engage the hearts and minds of the audience -- both young and old.

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I'm 17, and I agree fully with what imaginarytruths said. Bad movie--and this is coming from a poor, impressionable youth.

~ He who has no signature.

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