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What do you think are the best so-bad-it's-good movies?


I've been steaming through them lately and want to make a database. Too often people recommend completely awful movies that are only funny for the first few minutes, or that rely on a single stupid event for ironic entertainment. The key to a great so-bad-it's-good movie is that it's not boring. A few personal favourites in this vein are Miami Connection, Ninja Terminator, Samurai Cop (man I love Samurai Cop), The Baby and Three the Hard Way.

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Sleepstalker? Aka The Sandman

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This isn't one of them.

The best are Plan 9 from Outer Space, Manos: the Hands of Fate, The Creeping Terror, The Beast of Yucca Flats and Viva Knievel

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That's why I didn't think much of Birdemic. For every lol bad it's good moment there are endless shots of the main guy walking or driving or eating dinner on a date. You see Wiseau wasting time in that flower shop? No he got stuff done in 30 seconds.

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Consider the daffodil. And while you're doing that I'll be over here looking through your stuff.

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And Tommy can go from the top of a building, to the police station, drop off a perp, and came all the way back to the top of the roof in less than 3 minutes.

The dude does not mess around.

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Exactly. Or they just shot him in the head with his own gun and left him in the alley way. But either way he was efficient about what he got done.

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This is one of them. Despite what slurry thinks.

From the over the top "dramatic" acting that is comically bad. Even the title is so bad it's good. What room?

All the way to the so bad it's funny writing. Who goes from the top of a building and over to the nearest police station to drop off a perp and back in 3 minutes?

Pretty sure you have to give some statements. Maybe fill out some paperwork. Forget getting there and back, just being at the police statement would probably take an hour or so (depending on how busy they were).

How is your sex life?
Good. How is yours?
That's personal!

I don't know if that is an exact quote, but this movie is dumb enough to have dialogue like that. This movie was hilariously bad and that's why it's one of the best "so bad it's good" movies.

Tommy was trying to do a drama. An Oscar caliber drama. That's what makes this one of the best "so bad it's good" movies of all time. 

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It was more like:

-We got a new client at the bank.
-Who?
-I can't tell you, it's confidential! Anyway, how's your sex life?

Which works on so many levels. Why did he mention it at all if he didn't want to/couldn't talk about it? It wasn't just Johnny following the rules, but he seemed annoyed/offended, but if you say you have a new client, anyone would ask who in the follow up. That's how conversation works. Then the extremely awkward tonal shift. "Don't ask something personal that was actually an innocent and obvious question, now let me ask you something extremely personal and inappropriate." J'adore.

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That's right.

I lent my copy out a few years ago to someone I worked with and then they quit (and then moved) before I could get it back.

Or they lied just so they could keep this masterpiece. I don't blame them if that's what they did.

If there is a special edition I should order it.

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-Birdemic

-Trolls 2 (Which has nothing to do with the first Trolls, and does not feature a single Troll)

-Wild World of Bat Women

-Eegah

-It's Alive...not the 70's one about the baby, the 1969 movie about a prehistoric monster

-Sasquatch

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Go see Neil Breen's Fateful Findings (2014) on Youtube--I just did. Oogie boogie.

Then again, maybe you shouldn't--it's 100 minutes long, a good 40 minutes of which could have been cut if the film had been edited by someone other than writer-director-star Breen himself (this seems to be what you mean by "boring" right?) It's filled to the brim with ridiculous tracking shots and slow, padded scenes of nothing much happening. Also about two hundred of the stiffest, hackiest line readings you could possibly imagine ("No more damn books. NO MORE BOOKS!")

I still crown 'Manos' the Hands of Fate all-time champion, with Troll 2 and The Room not far behind. Fateful Findings is closest to The Room--Breen comes across as a dull middle aged zombie unlike Tommy Wiseau's damaged Euro-guy, but like Wiseau, he has a penchant for including gratuitous shots of his own naked butt.

I should also add that you like "funny and entertaining bad," as opposed to "made by incompetent zombies bad," which is also what Manos is, because it had the MST3K guys to help get the audience through crap like those endless female wrestling scenes. I probably couldn't watch MTHOF without the MST3K guys trashing it.

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Oh man yeah, I love Neil Breen. I've seen all 3 of his movies. The other two, Double Down and I Am Here Now (in which he plays God) are just as good as FF.

I'm with you on Manos too. It's fun but nothing special. Some of the best I've found recently are Raw Force, Death Spa, Terror in Beverly Hills and Rambu.

The Room is definitely in that top drawer for me but it's unusual because it's just a drama. Virtually all these so bad they're good movies are genre things, horror, scifi or action. Part of their appeal is the excess, something The Room doesn't have. So i can see why some might not like it. It's a bit like Breen in that way. Though really absolutely nothing is like Breen.

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For those of you who haven't seen Neil Breen's Fateful Findings, choice moments include:

1)Breen displays rare emotion when his eyes bug out at the site of his best friend's daughter dropping her bikini to shower in front of him.

2)Breen's best friend is murdered by his shrill blonde woman-child of a wife, who stages it to make it look like a suicide, screaming "He killed...himself! HE KILLED HIMSELF!" Breen wanders into the scene, cradles his friend's body, and goes "Jim! Jim. How could you have done this? How could you. I cannot believe you committed suicide. With all we've been through, I can't pull you out of this one. Goodbye my friend. Goodbye."

3)Breen's Russian-accented dullard of a wife, played by an actress so piss poor she makes the girl from The Room look like Judi Dench by comparison, commits suicide with alcohol and pills. Breen wanders into the scene, bleating, "Em-i-ly! Em-il-y! Em-i-ly!" like a goat. Then he appears to silently whisper "no! no!" to the camera. THEN it immediately cuts to him saying "Emily's dead." to his laptop in a room with no people in it.

4)Breen unveils his FATEFUL FINDINGS INDEED, from YEARS OF HACKING INTO TOP SECRET GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATE FILES, to The People Of America by standing in front of a green screen picture of the Capitol Building and announcing into a microphone that what he's found is devastating. A gaggle of six terrible random middle-aged actors, playing corporate scumbags and government crooks, announce how evil and horrible they've been TO THE CAMERA and they all commit pathetic suicides. THE END.

That last scene in particular comes across like what Ebert said about the Tony Danza movie She's Out Of Control: it looks like something filmed by people from Mars who had only a thin grasp of what human beings are really like.

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Undefeatable is also a pretty great one, and it really doesn't get the credit it deserves. Similar to Samurai Cop, except with better choreographed fight scenes. The best fight scene of the movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY

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The Lonely Lady
The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies

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More recently I'd say:

The Last Airbender
Donnie Yen's Iceman
Max Steel

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