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when will it be in IMDB TOP 250


I've been waiting for this movie to get in the IMDB TOP250 since long. How many more votes does it need. There are no hindi movies there & I believe this is the best contender for it. VOTE FOR IT ppl.

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Wont make it. Just not enough votes. It needs probably atleast 5000, and might have done with a proper fairly wide release, but just not enough people saw it.

My name is sanity

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been watching the top 250 - there r movies with 2000 odd votes there. lagaan has 2000+ votes but the score's not that great - i believe this movie deserves to be there.

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This movie surely needs to be there.. but not many people aside from Indians saw it so.. i doubt it'll get as many votes as needed to be in top 250.

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IMDB top 250 is just a reflection of the taste of IMDB users only. I find many of the top 250 movies crap. Swades is far better than many of them. Lagaan is decent but don't think it deserve to be in the list.
One more thing is that for the rating of top250 movies, rating from only the "regular" voters is considered.

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What is a "regular" voter? Ive voted for over 400 movies the past 12 months since I created my account. Am I a regualr voter? with over 1 vote per day?

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There are times when many new accounts are opened just for sake of boosting the rating of a particular movie after which the accounts are never used. Votes from such accounts are not considered. For example, Black has more than the minimum required votes(1250), but still it isn't in the top 250(rightly so).
Anyway, the IMDB top250 list is not the ultimate yardstick to measure the quality of a movie as the american influence on the list is quite predominant.

Here's the formula used for top250 rating:
The formula for calculating the Top Rated 250 Titles gives a true Bayesian estimate:

weighted rank (WR) = (v ÷ (v+m)) × R + (m ÷ (v+m)) × C

where:
R = average for the movie (mean) = (Rating)
v = number of votes for the movie = (votes)
m = minimum votes required to be listed in the Top 250 (currently 1250)
C = the mean vote across the whole report (currently 6.8)

for the Top 250, only votes from regular voters are considered

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thanks sumeet, good info. from u. i just hope this will soon get 1250 votes (current minimum) n get into the imdb-250. Also this is my choice for the oscars this year. Black is not an Indian story - its got more international flavour. Mangal Pandey can be considered but for the Item numbers. Page-3 is also good but not a positive ending. I think swades stands the best chance of winning among these - any more movies coming to anybody's mind ?

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Raincoat is a strong contender. Parineeta has a pretty good chance too.

My name is sanity

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no indian films are in the top 250 because not enough IMDB users see the films. Its not discrimination, just the way it is. Also most indian films are worth seeing. Although this film is pretty good, maybe around the 200 region. Lagaan I dont think deserves to be in there.

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yes, but how many of those are regular voters on IMDB?

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I don't vote that much, but there are Spanish and German movies on the 250

Hilary Duff sux. She wears black on TRL, when she crtisized Amy Lee for the same thing!

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German, French, Spanish, Swedish, Japanese....all are there.
My rough estimate says that the mean vote for a movie should be 8.8 when it reaches the 1250 mark to make it to the top250 list. Right now the mean is 8.6 for Swades(with 743 odd votes)

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The minimum number of votes a movie needs to be on the IMDB top 250 is 1,250 but most have alot more than that.

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Why do you care? No one in the US will watch it. We loved it, so it will be within top 10 in our heart. Also, most people outside the subcontinent won't relate to this movie. Even people already living there won't relate to it. The movie can be realized best when you're so far away from your long forgotten home.

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No photos of the movie or from the premier night. Few photos if any of the cast. Many Indian movies I surch for on IMDB hardly have comments about them. Indians just don't put enough effort into IMDB that's why we don't get much back from it. A typical Indian attitude is to take that which is free but not to give for free. The attitude is not good for building an online community. If Indian IMDB users make more of an effort Indian films may become more widely recognised.

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although it may be a nice idea, the top 250 is driven by BOX office success, primarily in the USA > plus, a large portion of the world isnt going to watch Hindi with subtitles, unless they REALLY love Bollywood. (this is very hard to imagine, since most Bollywood films are terrible, and completely unlike Swades)

- Q.E.D (quod erat demonstrandum)

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Swades is the best hindi movie that I have ever seen!. I am not an indian but my vote is 10/10.
This movie deserves to be IMDB TOP250./

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It won't be in the imdb top twenty because it isn't THAT good - simple! Granted I loved the film, great songs, content etc. However compared to some of the masterpieces up in the top 250 it just doesnt cut it. Production value, attention to detail is simply not there, in the degree it was for Lagaan. It's good, but definitely not a top 250 entry. I'm sure indian filmakers will use the ground covered by this film and create a masterpiece in the future!

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What do u mean by its not that good..well there are many muvys in the list which are found crap by many people.It doesnot depends whether me or u liked or disliked but we take how the users rated.If it had been rated that good so it should be in the list.The list is based on rating and if cant come then whats the use of rating.Imdb should better place the 250 muvys either by themselves or they should collect some critics for that.But they show the top 250 movies by user rating so this movie should be there.Cause it desrves

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you said it. I agree that it doesn't cut it to some of the masterpieces up in the top 20. But ..... so many other movies in the Top 250 also do not.

Iam not saying that this should be the top movie (or top 20) - but somewhere in the top 250 for sure.

Reg. Attention to the detail - pl. let me know the goofs - i could not find them.

reg. production value - I've not seen an Indian village more beautifully yet realistically shown in a movie.

Anyways its just my point of view that this should be in Top-250 & as per the response this post has recd. many ppl think so. when i started this post swades has bout 700-odd votes now its 1000+ so its on its way.

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Well its internatinal movie database - its not about hollywood or bollywood - that is one of the main reasons i visit this site. Its your perception that THIS MOVIE DID NOT DESERVE THE OSCAR NOMINATION - not mine. Just a difference of opinion i guess.

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TheMoviesslord i don't know if you're Indian or not, but I can tell you're a mother *beep* jackass, this movie was absolutely amazing. Maybe you just don't get it. I can tell that you are a racist and for your information, this movie never got an Oscar nomination.

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8584 votes for this movie now...what to say??

I KNOW ONLY TWO LANGUAGES:
1ST-ENGLISH
2ND-BAD ENGLISH :D

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cant help, i guess some aamir khan fans out of jealousy has rated it low and made it like 8.2. It needs more positive votes up and by the time it reaches 14,000 votes it may get a sneak peak at IMDB top 250.

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should be in 250 by now ... deserves it more than any other
..so saddened by this ... hoped for it ever since i saw this gem ..
but still waiting ...

weather it be a grain of sand or a rock in water they sink alike..

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