Hey what was up with that dude in the movie who was bending forward and backwards and making his hands shake and what not? You know in the scene where the guys were standing for a long periode of time. That one dude creeped me out with all that shaking and leaning.
shareI think he had some type of neurological disorder, such as chorea (Huntington's disease) or epilepsy...
shareThat is so ridiculous, I can't believe the two of you. Just how easy do either of you think it is to stand on your feet for a whole day and into a night? It's exhausting. Completely exhausting. Not only do your feet and legs get extremely tired, but the people themselves were probably falling asleep out of exhaustion. Yet, they knew if they dropped to the ground, they might well be shot by guards.
It is stupefying to me that anyone watching this film would not understand this. You think because you are sitting in comfy movie theater seat the people on the screen represented by the actors playing them are as comfortable as you? It scares me to think how disconnected people are from the idea of other people's suffering and pain. It's the kind of thing that makes a Holocaust possible.
If it "creeped you out" watching that man swaying wildly back and forth, good. It should "creep you out". The depth of the cruelty and inhumanity that was inflicted on millions of people by Nazi Europe should do more than creep everyone out.
Tch. Epilepsy or Huntington's disease. Unreal.
Dude, calm down! People DID have those diseases in concentration and destruction camps. It could very well be that that man had Huntington or Epilepsy, or whatnot.
shareDon't call me "dude" you rude creep. I'm not a "dude". And don't tell me to "calm down". People were not more likely to have diseases like epilepsy or Huntington's disease in a concentration camp. They were more likely to have contagious diseases, like typhus, and diseases of malnutrition, like scurvy.
The people that were swaying violently back and forth on their feet did not have a disease. They swayed like that because they were thoroughly exhausted from standing for hours and hours, but were unable to sit down or they would probably be shot. It is unimaginable to me that anyone seeing these scenes would not understand that. If I sound strident, that's why. It's shocking to me that anyone could be so clueless as to fail to grasp why the people were swaying so violently in those scenes, or to think it must've been caused by some disease. You go out in your backyard in your underwear and see how many hours you can stand in one place before you are unable to continue standing. You see how easy it is and then come back here and post about how you still think people were swaying because they must've had some disease.
I shouldn't be surprised. Anyone who calls someone else on a message board "dude" is the kind of person who is probably too brainless to watch a film like "Fateless" and understand much of it. It's pathetic.
Watching the film, I got the feeling that it was entirely possible that the "swaying man" is mentioned in more detail in the book; it seemed very important.
I am also entirely certain that the fellow who called you dude meant absolutely nothing by it and you shouldn't get upset. I call people dude all of the time and my IQ is 149.
Since when is "calm down" rude? And how should I know you're a female. I saw Sorstalansag and the only thing I said that it could be well possible that the man had some kind of disease like Huntington's.
shareIt doesn't matter whether I'm male or female. No one should be calling anyone else "dude". It's a stupid way to talk. You sound like a gangster wannabe. And telling me to "calm down" *is* rude because it's giving someone orders. Plus, I wasn't getting excited, so it wasn't an appropriate thing to say to me.
I heard what you said about Huntington's etc. And the only thing I said about that is that it's a particularly clueless and disconnected thing to suggest. What it tells me is that in watching this film, you were completely disconnected emotionally from the material you were watching on screen. I'd bet you just about anything that if this film was shown before 5th graders, over 90% would understand immediately why the men in those enforced standing scenes were swaying violently. They would understand immediately that being forced to stand for hours on end like that would be exhausting and that anyone in that situation would be near collapse after so long. That you could watch that scene and say, "Maybe the guy had Huntington's disease" and to suggest that people in concentration camps were likely to have Huntington's disease points to a level of disconnection from reality and to an overall cluelessness that is mind-boggling.
Actually, "dude" comes from cowboys and then into current popular culture through surfers. Nothing to do with gangsters. And chicks can be dudes (metaphorically, ie. without surgery).
I think I know what's going on here. At some point (high school?) the kids who said dude all of the time were too cool for you, and you're still bitter about it.
Takes one to know one? Yes, but I've only stayed bitter about the things that count, dude!
OK so don't get her exited even more now.
The point is that that (ahem) dude that was moving all around COULD have Huntington's. It may well have been the very reason he was sent there in the first place. *beep* were made even by Nazi SS officers when selecting people for the gas chambers and those who'd have to work themselves to death.
I watched the film last night and wondered the same as the the person who started this thread. The whole mass of people were swaying like grass because of fatigue. The individual in question was clearing suffering from some kind of mental disorder on top. This made him arch his body and claw his hands. Nobody else was doing that. One of the tracks on the soundtrack by Ennio Morricone is called Pyschological Destruction and the film is strewn with different examples of that, this being one of them.
shareNo, no. If he had a true, pre-existing mental disorder, he would not have made it to an Arbeitslager (concentration/work camp) like Zeitz. Rather, he would have ended up in a Vernichtungslager (extermination camp) like Auschwitz-Birkenau. It is likely that he is a "Muzulman" which literally means "Muslim" but in the concentration camps was used to describe someone who was in the extreme stages of starvation.
shareexactly - i dont think the other 'dude'(ha) was saying that they 'caught' huntington's or epilepsy in the camp (not possible) but that could be the reason they were sent there, just like anyone else with a disability or illness was along with the jewish, gypsies, 'blacks', Drs, Lawyers etc. BTW - the lack of subtitles annoys me! When they're yelling at them and stuff, the version I'm watching doesn't have subtitles! Going to read the book though - fascinates me this stuff
'I say I'm dead.. and I move'
When I watched the movie I thought the swaying around, even the individual exhibiting the most extreme movement, was due to exhaustion. That was my first thought. But, the one person did seem to moving more than others. In your righteous indignation, did it ever occur to you that the filmmakers may have been giving us an example of somebody with a neurological disorder to demonstrate the particular hardships they would have to endure and point out that the Nazis did put the handicapped in camps as well?
Your assertion that anyone who could think that way is "particularly clueless and disconnected" is absurd and you obviously feel most comfortable on your high-horse or soap box. So, how about your consider that this insufferable cretin, as I'm sure you think we all are, actually noticed something that Your Highness may have missed. 5th graders probably don't understand what Huntington's disease is nor do they probably understand that one could be forced into a camp for any number of reasons. A 5th grader may, however, understand that there are more ways to interpret things than their own (they are not yet so pretentious as some) and I'm sure they understand that "dude" isn't rude at all.
DUDE, CALM DOWN! (Of course, I am using "dude" as the figure of speak and "calm down" as a suggestion and not an order. Although I clearly can order you around over an IMDB forum) You are a fool.
Thanks man :P
shareHey MdmBadenov,
What's up dude? It appears to me and everyone else on this post that you may have some sort of mental disorder. It is your type of irrational thinking and short-temper that cause such atrocitites and inhumanities as the Holocaust. Maybe you should learn some patience and the definition of the word "interpretation", which is what all movies and stories are subject too. I didn't see your name in the credits...what makes you the scholar of this movie?
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CALM DOWN DUDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
BUT SERIOUSLY EASE THE F C K UP!! AND YEA IM BEING RUDE COZ YOU'RE A DOUCHE.
I felt like,
"This guy's really hurting me."
And it hurt.
Dude, i totally agree with your comments, dude.
Mook
Its not very likely he would have had huntingtons or epilepsy.Judging by the camp he would have probably been killed as unfit for work or just left as a mussleman (sp?)
Sorry for the terrible spelling.im tired
why are you looking down here
Excellent reply.How can anyone watching the movie be so ignorant and have no understanding of the situation those people were in.Calling someone a dude in reference to this movie shows a total lack of compassion.
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It was neurological. It is not unusual to develop neurological disorders under those conditions. The central nervous system can react to horror.
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first of all, epilepsy wont make someone move like that.
i think it was because he had gone insane in there.
Malnourishment and dehydration will lead to electrolyte imbalances ... Twitching, tetany, acting "crazy" are all inescapable symptoms among many others. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw that scene anyway dude.
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