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How did his neighbors all survive?


Viewed the DVD tonight and loved it. The boy was fantastic.

One question, how did all his Jewish neighbors, his mother, and his step-mother all survive. I assume they all spent the war years in Budapest. Was Budapest ever totally occupied by the Nazis?

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Budapest was a weird exception to the Holocaust. The Germans occupied Hungary in 1944 and divided the country into six zones for deporting Jews. They completely swept the first five zones, sending 400,000 Jews to Auschwitz, but Budapest was the final zone and because of the advance of the Red Army, some intervention by Raoul Wallenberg, and the challenges of operating in a big city, the Germans didn't put the same deportation machine into play. Lots of Jews were killed in Budapest in wild massacres or sent on foot to Austria, perhaps half, but it was possible for Jews to survive there unlike almost everywhere else in eastern Europe because it took place so late in the war.

And so Budapest was the only city in Central Europe where a small but significant Jewish community stayed after the war.

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Britan 33 ... you get a gold star ... perfect answer

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Because germans were not as bad as post war propaganda put them at. I wonder how come so many of them(jews) survived after watching all the propaganda movies demonising german people as demons.

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YOU NEED TO EDUCATE YOURSELF. The HOLOCAUST was not WW2 PROPAGANDA!
And no, not ALL German's were bad, but INDIFFERENCE, IGNORANCE and HATRED were!!(and still are!)

Adolf Hitler and his psychotic, sociopathic vision for an ARYAN race was what MURDERED 6 MILLION INNOCENT JEWISH people and another 5 MILLION or so INNOCENT non-Jews!!!!
The camps, the looting, raping and pillaging of entire nations, were the REALITY of an insane murderer and his minions!
Just like your Slobodan Molichevic(may he ROT in H*LL)SLAUGHTERED 200,000 innocent people in the ethnic cleansing of Bsonia herzigovina in the ninties!!

Indifference is the demon here. Hatred is the Demon here. Murdering someone because of their ethnicity or religious beliefs is the REAL demon here!

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How do I educate my self on Holocaust when there is no fair debate. I dont accept the fact that I only need to listen to the "official" allies story of Holocaust. I wish to hear the other side of debate and I will make my own conclusion. Killing germans is bad, allies bombed germany and killed women and children, it is even shown in this movie how jews are happy that the germany is in ruins.

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So the camps never existed?
So the thousands of buried bodies the allies found and took pictures and film of never existed.

its people like you who give sanity a bad name.

you are the sort of person who if it was white would say its black even if you was blinded by the whiteness

As for bombing Germany, i think the Germans might have bombed England just a little bit, and sent these nasty rockets over to cause a bit of bother, or maybe you think they never existed?

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i don't take sides in this argument, but feel i should make a comparison. 2 police men pick up a man that's about to testify as a witness that they were involved in drug deals. they take him out into the woods and kill him, then cover it up. the only 2 people alive that know what happened to the informant aren't going to tell. that's happened. that's how i feel about history. you don't know, unless you were there. if you want, you can tell the story any way you want. look at the Iraq War. look at religion. i know only what i've seen to be true. the rest is whatever...

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nedimhaken- youre barking on the wrong message board. you have a very flimsy grasp of world history, [and language] , god knows you bosnians have been through enough to rattle your heads a little bit perhaps you need to reassign some of your brains into REALITY.
funny the only other message youve left is on the AMERICAN HISTORY X board under the heading 'THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE'... no, not all germans were 'bad' whatever that means but we all see what happens under 'authority' people can do anything, ,either resort to evil, or simply become indifferent to it. the collective madness that gripped the otherwise civilized germans during ww2 happens everywhere - including in your own country.. so think before you post please it just makes you look stupid if you dont..

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I love it how you accuse him of 'barking', yet it is actually the repliers who are using excessive emotions and caps-locked drivel as argumentation. The irony. What makes you think that you are right and they were wrong, with the exception of them being defeated due to inferior numbers?

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IDIOT.

I felt like,
"This guy's really hurting me."
And it hurt.

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What an idiot you are nedimhaken. I have nothing to add to the original question except that Horthy to some degree tried to resist the Nazi and the Arrow's calls to deport the Jews. I read his autobiography, supposedly, he thought Jews were just sent to work camps. It was not until he read the Vrba report, that he found out they were exterminated, so he claims. However it took him a full month to stop the deportations (only after significant international pressure)so I don't think it was done in good faith. He was more concerned about land than people.

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