OK, so I'm Romanian, and I'd have to say I enjoyed this movie a lot...
but the ending got me a little bit confused. I mean, she asks Satan if
he despises her, he shows her her own death (which looks to me as a
suicide, which means she will go to Hell, theoretically) and then
says... Sleep Well, Allison. Can anyone explain more of this? Or is it
all to be explained in the Sequel - Forsaken?
I assume it's gonna be explained in the sequel.
shareAh...I thought it was meant to be ambiguous. Ie, she asks if he despises her, and he shows her her own death and the result of it. This could be taken as him showing that, yes, he does. Or that he that doesn't (or just doesn't care either way) by showing her what she can change. Of course, this is assuming she committed suicide (which is what I thought). If she didn't...then he hates her. >_>
What I don't get is why Jason Scott Lee is listed for this movie. He ain't in it! :(
Or why they cast Kari Wuhrer. I mean no offense to her...but she is not a good actress. Did she start out in soft porn?
Ah...but this movie might make me think of Lucifer in a whole new light. :P (Not that I haven't read a few books that did just that. *cough*)
I was under the impression that what he did was take away all of the horrible feelings that memories of her childhood (and what happened with her parents) drudged up. So I figured when he told her to sleep well, he meant without the probable nightmares of those events. o_O
shareI was pissed the devil character changed his whole adittude towards humans from the first movie when he was played by Viggo Mortensen. I know they couldn't get the same actor but it should still be the same devil talking through a different body.
shareCan't remember a *whole* lot about the first movie. I'm going to rent The Prophecy in a week or two. But, I think I prefer this Devil over any other. I mean, when you're far more powerful and very likely superior physically and mentally, wouldn't YOU view an "inferior" species with detachment, if not outright contempt?
sharehey
i agree jon light as satan was very good....viggos satan character was very good too,he a better actor as well, but it was the same stereotypical satan..the new one is very different and quite appealing..not in your face..and yeh probably someone who doesnt give a stuff bout the rest of the angels etc etc...
I actually prefered this Lucifer to the one played by Viggo Mortensen's character. The reason for this, is because the war in heaven between the angels, was because God favored mankind over the angels that came before us. Lucifer thought that they should have favor, so filled with hubris led many of the angels in heaven and himself agains God and his loyal angel followers. In the movie it talks about Belial going against Satan and trying to build a 'new hell' (he is concidered to be true evil unlike Lucifer who, in some religions is still true to God in many ways, but misguided) and he says to Satan that he has a lot of self-impossed limitations. I think that at this point, the movie is trying to get across that Satan wanting to be loved most by God was offended by God's favoritism of mankind, so he rebelled thinking it would change God's mind. After being cast out of heaven and living on earth for many years he sees that he was wrong, but knowing that he can not go back to heaven after everything he has done, and possibly because down here he has power, he is not going to embrace heaven and God, but still respect the wishes of God, the one he loves most (which I think he still does), but still does not think mankind should be favored over angels. You see that he wants power and people to go to hell, but you also see that he wants it to be fair(by not taking the book), and that he sees God as the highest being, and what he wishes will come true (the book of revelations). To me the war seems to be over how they will deal with mankind, not on who will be the highest leader. the war is to try to win the favor of God, not to replace him in heaven. Lucifer before being cast out of heaven was known as 'the light bearer' and was concidered by most an archangel (one of the highest angels in heaven). His only loyalty belonged to God and thought that he should not have to bow down to mankind. so in short, I felt that this Prophecy showed a side of Lucifer that is more true to Christen thought then to myth of the devil. Lucifer loved God above all else and felt betrayed when asked to be second to mankind and that is why there was a war, but I still think he loves God and respects man kind, for it is said that the angels envied mankind for their souls and for their ability to reason.
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Where did you find the name of Jason Scott Lee in this movie? I believe you made a mistake.
Jason London, who works with Jason Scott Lee in "Dracula II & III", is the voice of Simon.
In accordance with IMDb, Jason Scott Lee works in the next movie ("The Prophecy: Forsaken"), which unfortunatelly has not been released in Brazil.
Regards,
Claudio
Unanimity is dumb. (Brazilian writer Nélson Rodrigues)
At the time I posted that (almost a year ago), he was listed for this movie on IMDB, and it seems like Netflix, as well. :)
shareThank you for your reply.
Regards,
Claudio
Unanimity is dumb. (Brazilian writer Nélson Rodrigues)
Isn't the 'sleep well...' bit a reference to the first movie when he says 'sleep well little tommy daggart' [at that point refering to Thomas' childhood nightmares of Satan under his bed]. Can't remember it exactly but I'm pretty sure that's it.
Just watched Uprising and I did like it, tho maybe they tried too hard to tie it in with the original 3 [ie, Simon reappearing, the police coroner talking online etc].
As for whether Satan was out of character [in comparison to the original], although played differently, I don't think he was too out of character. They couldn't have him played just as Vigo had, since a) John being Satan had to a surprise and b) he had to mingle with humans. What stayed constant tho was a sence of ambiguity. In the original he is battaling against Gabriel [and indirectly on the side of God] for the sake of his own interests. He doesn't want to be part of this 2nd war. Nor does he want anyone compromising his position. And this motive is what dictates his actions. Although I havn't seen the fith one yet I imagine his act as being rarther sympathetic and not overly all evil turns out to be a self serving sham.
i thought he might mean "sleep well" because if she's asleep someone could take the book from her, being the only time she would ever let it out of her sight.
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