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Character Motives + Allegience (Spoilers)


Okay, so I'm trying to figure out what each character in the series wants as a way to help me better understand the plot. Maybe it will help you, too. :) Feel free to discuss, critique and make suggestions!

Raziel wants...
- SR: Revenge and retribution for the defilement of his Sarafan self, which he seeks by killing his brothers and attempting to kill Kain.
- SR2: To discover the origins of the Reaver and his role in history. By now his hatred for Kain seems to have cooled somewhat. Perhaps he's just fascinated by seeing Nosgoth in "happier" times. His sense of injury over being transformed from a Sarafan into a vampire may have made him sympathetic to Nosgoth's plight, as Nosgoth is also corrupted in his time, and fueled his desire to learn more. After witnessing the carnage of Moebius's genocidal crusade, the inhumanity of the Sarafan, and the long forgotten nobility of the Ancient vampires his allegiance shifts again, leading him to renounce his human self. Although he no longer tries to kill Kain he remains wary of him.
- Defiance: First, to avert his destiny and discover the truth about why the Reaver was forged. He later chooses to embrace his destiny (whether he does this is to save Nosgoth, spite the Elder God, or avenge Janos is unclear to me) and reconciles with Kain.

Kain wants...
- BO: First, a cure for vampirism. By the end of the game he has embraced the Dark Gift and decides to use it for more power, rejecting the sacrifice.
- BO2: To kill the Sarafan Lord, rebuild his army, and kick some ass (seriously, this game is 90% combat).
- SR, SR2 & Defiance: To rewrite history and return the Pillars to vampire Guardians. I really doubt this is a noble pursuit. Kain seems to understand that in the SR era Nosgoth is unsustainable, so he wants to create a future where he can hold onto power in a restored Nosgoth. Obviously, Raziel must still be cast into the abyss in this future for the events of SR2 and Defiance to take place. However, if his dialogue at the end of Defiance is to be believed, he also wants to avoid having Raziel imprisoned in the Reaver. I wonder if he sincerely believed it was possible, though for him this seems too naive.

The Hylden want...
- BO2: To commit mass genocide by killing off everything that is not Hylden. Seems like a pretty dumb plan to me, but this is BO2 we're talking about.
- Defiance: To destroy the binding/Pillars, escape the Demon Dimension and bring about the extinction of the vampires. Going off BO2 they would probably want to rule over the humans, if not kill them. They also seem to hate the Elder God but I doubt they could do anything to stop him without the Scion of Balance. If they succeeded Nosgoth would never be restored and might even deteriorate faster than under Kain's rule.

The Ancient Vampires/Janos want(s)...
- SR2, Defiance: (A) To fulfill an honestly vague prophecy that will supposedly save Nosgoth. However, their motives for creating the Spirit Forge are unclear to me. Throughout SR2 and Defiance it's implied that the Ancient's separation from the Elder God caused them incredible anguish, yet the Spirit Reaver was forged specifically to expose the Elder God and kill It. It's also implied that the 'Oracle's chamber was sealed to lock the Elder God inside (obviously, a futile attempt). So which is it? Do they want to redeem themselves to their god or destroy It? (B) To restore the Pillars to vampire Guardians and keep the Hylden at bay.

The Humans want...
- All games: To wipe out the vampires. With the exception of Moebius they are ignorant of the consequences of their goal. Very few of them know anything about the Hylden, the Ancients or the true purpose of the Pillars. Some humans worship vampires but they seem a minority. In BO2 they also want to get rid of the oppressive New Sarafan.

The Demons want...
- BO2, SR2, Defiance: To escape the Demon Dimension. They don't seem terribly intelligent and BO2 suggests the Hylden use them as slaves or beasts of burden. It's possible some of them are actually loyal to the Hylden.

Moebius wants...
- BO, SR2 & Defiance: (A) The extinction of the vampire race and to serve the Elder God. He knows the prophecies and the consequences of his actions but his loyalty to the Elder God and hatred of the vampires is so great that he doesn't care. Judging by the dialogue at the end of Defiance he is allied against both the vampires and the Hylden. (B) For Raziel to complete his cyclic fate (become trapped in the *UNPURIFIED* Reaver) and kill Kain. Having Raziel kill Kain is his main goal. Presumably, since Raziel killed all of Kain's future lieutenants and future Kain (and Turel is trapped/killed by Hash'ak'gik) in the unaltered timeline, the wayward clans in future Nosgoth will be open to human attack and go extinct in time. Note that in this timeline Janos is not resurrected and the Hylden probably never become a great issue.

The Elder God wants...
- SR1, SR2 & Defiance: To keep Raziel bound to his cyclic destiny (again, become trapped in the *UNPURIFIED* Reaver), destroy the Pillars, destroy the vampires and keep the 'Wheel of Fate' turning. The Elder God is a mysterious character in that it's hard to say for certain whether It truly is a god or simply a parasite as Raziel suggests. It seems safe to assume the latter, for every action the Elder God takes seems related to feeding. It was apparently on good terms with the Ancients until they were cursed with immortality. No longer able to feed off their souls, It rejected them and became even more enraged when they began passing on the curse to humans, further disrupting Its feeding. Also, the Elder God seems indifferent to the threat of the Hylden. It never makes any effort to stop them and actively encourages Moebius to take actions that will destroy the binding. If the Elder God encouraged the Ancients to start the war with the Hylden It probably did so to create more death for It to feed off, rather than being insulted by their refusal to worship. The binding's destruction would serve Its desires in the end, causing even greater strife, making Nosgoth practically uninhabitable and vastly increasing human mortality. TL;DR, the Elder God desires anything that will lead to greater death and suffering.

NOTE ABOUT THE ELDER GOD: Strangely, after Raziel is defeated by the possessed Janos, the Elder God attempts to bury him and Kain, with the Blood Reaver, under a pile of rubble. With Its only servant Moebius permanently dead and no one able to force Raziel into the Reaver, wouldn't this create a fatal paradox? Did the Elder God not realize this? I suppose even with Raziel's free-will he can't escape the Reaver.


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