UK terminology


I just watched the movie after having seen all of the episodes of the television series. One thing that was interesting to me as an American was that the main character said more than once that he wasn't a doctor, he was an obstetrician. In the US, of course, an obstetrician is a doctor.

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I'm not sure about this but in the UK, they are more particular about specialists, such as obstetricians, who require more training, then GP's, or regular doctors. We in the US tend to call all MD's (someone with post-graduate training) "doctors" and only call them by their specialty if we are going to see them, not if we're simply addressing them. I'm only guessing here, but in the UK, they may only refer to someone as a doctor if the person has post-graduate training but is NOT a specialist.

Here's an article that may explain it (somewhat). I'm still confused!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine



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Yes, "doctor" in common parlance tends to refer to a GP, a jack-of-all-trades doctor who is the first line of defence: you go to see him first with any medical problem. He may then refer you to a specialist (either private or on the National Health Service) such as an obstetrician.

One other peculiarity: ordinary GPs take the title Doctor, but more senior specialists, especially surgeons, revert to the title Mister. It's a sort of inverted snobbery thing.

I'm not sure that ordinary GPs have a post-grad degree. They do longer training than for an ordinary BA/BSc degree, but I don't think it constitutes an MA/MSc/PhD post-grad degree. Which reminds me: PhDs also take the title Doctor, which causes great problems if a PhD introduces himself as Dr X at a party and people starting telling him all their medical problems :-)

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Thanks for the clarification, martinu-2! I like that term "inverted snobbery". It explains a lot, though I still don't understand why they would do that. It also gives a double meaning to the many times Doc Martin feels obliged to say "I'm not a doctor.", thus confusing people even more. :D As you wrote:

PhDs also take the title Doctor, which causes great problems if a PhD introduces himself as Dr X at a party and people starting telling him all their medical problems :-)


It is pretty funny! Poor Dr Ellingham already has enough people flocking round him everywhere he goes (esp. one guy with a "gammy" (?) leg), even at his aunt's funeral, asking him to diagnose them.

They also had fun with the title "Doctor" in the episode, called "Love Thy Neighbor" (I think) in the U.S., in which Doc and Louisa are forced to deal with a snobby, obnoxious couple, whose husband has a Doctor of Psychology and insists that he and Martin are "both doctors", to which Doc finally replies, "Yes, but only one of us has a waiting room full of patients". Zing!

You're right too, at least in this programme, about the GP being a jack of all trades. Our network, PBS, airs Doc Martin and on yesterday's episode, he performed an emergency tracheotomy (not the most elaborate maneuver) on a teenage girl who had let a strep infection get out of hand, causing her throat to close. Most surgeons I've met probably would just call an ambulance and carry on with whatever they were doing (golfing, partying, you know...the really important stuff!).



Don't get me wrong...
It might be unbelievable,
But let's not say so long

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