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Sam Mraovich = The Gay Tommy Wiseau?


I have not seen this movie, but it sounds like an apt comparison given everyone's reviews (which are friggin' hilarious).

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Not a bad comparison, but where The Room is so bad, it's fascinating, Ben and Arthur is so bad, it's excruciating. By the 25 minute mark, I thought I'd been sitting there for over 2 hours.

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Yea, at least The Room was shot on film and the most salient elements of film making are all there. Wiseau lost it when it came to directing the performances and maintaining a plot which were all an absolute scream. Ben & Arthur is like someone from Venus crash landed, saw a soap opera through an Earthling's living room window and then stole a camera to imitate it. It's fascinating in how misconceived every single aspect of it is. I find it hilarious. "What if I quitted?" "YOU need pray for!" But I can understand why The Room has a much larger cult following; it's much easier to watch.

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You're not the first person to compare Wiseau and Mraovich, and from what I've seen, it's a pretty appropriate comparison.

And on a similar note, there's a Christian fundie named Greg Robbins who directed, wrote and co-starred in a movie called "C Me Dance," and the trailer for that movie looks hilariously awful. I think Greg Robbins might be the Christian equivalent of Wiseau and Mraovich.

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Actually, since "The Room" was released AFTER "Ben & Arthur", it might be more accurate to say that Tommy Wisseau is the straight Sam Mraovich.

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The problem with the Tommy Wiseau comparison is that the room while reputedly an absurdly bad movie, at least attempted to be a movie (they used film, actual sets etc) while Ben and Arthur is just stripped down to the max to an outrageous degree (filmed in home video quality with a digital camera and do discernible other sound recording, a shot of a FedEx plane landing to show a character traveling by air, a cardboard cross as a prop for a church) its almost like Mraovich didn't even try to give it any quality whatsoever.

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I can almost kind of admire how someone with access to a handicam can just go "let's make a movie, I guess..." And God bless 'em, the movie made it to Netflix and people are talking about it. Even though he goes "what if I quitted?" He says that in the movie, honest to God.

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