Really Liberal Writing
Maybe I'm super sensitive to it, but last week with the 'Dreamer' storyline and this week with innocent Gitmo detainee story, I hope this show didn't flip the script and go Liberal since Gary Glasberg's death.
shareWhy is a storyline about an innocent guy being locked up in Gitmo and kept there because translators lied about what he said, considered 'Liberal Writing'?
shareI know, right? That 'unlawful imprisonment' thing is soooo a liberal issue, isn't it. If the prisoner had been a good ol' boy from Oklahoma unjustly imprisoned in Leavenworth, this plotline wouldn't be questioned.
People never complain when this show praises active service members, or (especially) injured or disabled vets.
And oh yeah, Bishop dating a Muslim.... the horror!!
(Unfortunately I think this country has already been set back 20 years. And counting.)
I know it's hard for you to see the bias. This show does praise the military and I give them kudos for many years of good work. If you can't see how they are forcing the left's agenda, I will never be able to make you see it.
This agenda is a tactic by all politicians to get us to argue with each other. All almost 100% of those who are soooo concerned with this or that agenda haven't one credit in political science world or national history,or anythig that helps them see the big picture. The agend you should be worrying about isn't your felllow Americans minor leanings issues...We all what the same things. Mostly very simple things.
But the politicians thru cable and radio personalities making hundreds of millions want us to be at each other's throats.
When you sit people down,when even (avg) 3minutes is spent with two reasonable people from different camps as it were,you find they both want exactly the same thing. And what all this comes down to is what we have been paying attention to. NOT what is really going on,but to what radio and tv TALKERS making millionsare telling us how dangerous we are to each other. The fox telling the chickens to peck each other to death,,,,fellow countryman,...and behind each one is a mega corp!!! That is the real agenda you need to be concerned with. Not good fellows Americans who might have a differing opinion,but what the same things. These others,those with money and power,they don't want the things we do,not even close!
Respectfully
Respectfully, I disagree. Corporations are not the enemy, no matter how much it's portrayed on TV. Their existence relies on the only true democratic governance, Capitalism. You cast your vote for or against a company by whether or not you buy their product. Much like, I do not like what NBC spews out on many of their shows. So choose not to watch much of anything on that network.
When you say this tactic is done by all politicians, I get it. The writers/Producers of NCIS are not politicians. They should keep their views to themselves.
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shareTo a Liberal, everyone in Gitmo is innocent. Can't you see how they are softening up the populace to their agenda? I guarantee that most of the viewership of this show is pro-military and pro-law enforcement. By shoving these stories down our throats, the left creates a 'new normal'. For instance, I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists, but that's how a Lib heard my original comment. You need to look closer and see the political agenda the writers are sending. For instance, I love the Star Trek universe. I hate the political undertones it tries to convey. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you need to educate yourself.
shareTo a Liberal, everyone in Gitmo is innocent
Since an ethos of your own legal system is innocent until proved guilty and these people have never faced trial..........
Can't you see how they are softening up the populace to their agenda?
What agenda?
I guarantee that most of the viewership of this show is pro-military and pro-law enforcement.
Most people are pro military and pro law-enforcement but that doesn't mean they always agree with the behaviour of each individual member of these groups.
By shoving these stories down our throats, the left creates a 'new normal'
What is normal to you?.
For instance, I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists, but that's how a Lib heard my original comment.
I've just re-read this and I don't see anyone saying this.
You need to look closer and see the political agenda the writers are sending.
Which is?
I hate the political undertones it tries to convey
What political undertones?
If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you need to educate yourself.
Why don't you try explaining because I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt and consider there is an alternative explanation for your statements. share
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Excellent response. I'll add a bit more.
To a Liberal, everyone in Gitmo is innocent.
"Everyone"? Really?? Nobody came close to saying anything like this, and I'm pretty sure nobody actually believes it, either. Quite the hyperbole.
I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists, but that's how a Lib heard my original comment.
I'll echo Woodcat: I don't believe anyone made such a claim.
I guarantee that most of the viewership of this show is pro-military and pro-law enforcement.
I agree. As Woodcat mentioned, most people are pro-military and pro-law enforcement. So the point is..... what, exactly?
I love the Star Trek universe. I hate the political undertones it tries to convey.
That must stink for you, then, as Star Trek was blatantly political from the very first episodes. Deliberately so. It would be like saying "I like NCIS... but not the military undertones." share
My point is that the Liberal spin in Hollywood is being done to indoctrinate the population. Any dissent is unacceptable. Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it's really overt. When it's brought to light, liberals fight back with ridicule and shame.
Sometimes I don't care when shows get political. Star Trek was fine because I knew it described a Lib's wet dream of a future. By making political statements in NCIS, the writers are trying to influence the present in way I find unacceptable.
Do you always resort to insults when people don't agree with you? "Lib"? Really? And no "all" liberals don't believe most or even many of the detainees at Gitmo are innocent.
Of course, you paint "liberal" in some sort of uniform broad hyperbolic picture. Nothing could be further from the truth. Should liberals paint all conservatives the same way? No, of course not.
Finally, yes by all means let's decide that a "Lib's wet dream" of equality, peace (for the most part), and respect for the military of the time (aka Starfleet) is a horrible, even unthinkable thing.
If you want shows to influence the present to your seemingly narrow liking, well, go watch those shows instead of this one.
My point is that the Liberal spin in Hollywood is being done to indoctrinate the population. Any dissent is unacceptable. Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it's really overt. When it's brought to light, liberals fight back with ridicule and shame.
You're right of course, and NCIS does seem to be going the liberal way of most other shows in Hollywood. It would be nice if there could be a few shows that went the other way, but in Hollywood, that's never going to happen. Luckily, I don't care for the new cast (and the heavy emphasis on the new cast), so I'll probably stop watching soon. I'm halfway there already, I'm not paying that much attention while it's on. It's a shame, I used to love this show. share
Then please do us all a favor and stop watching and posting utter BS. Whenever someone keeps nattering on about "liberal spin," "you liberals," etc, I find little merit in that person's arguments. As a writer and former English professor, I've spent much of my life analyzing literature and entertainment. Writers seldom have "agendas" in mind while producing scripts; they are the products of their experiences, education and upbringing. Gitmo has long been a complicated issue, so it makes for interesting material. Likewise, issues about the shameful treatment of veterans have also been the subject of many scripts and books (fiction and non-fiction).
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Politics are everywhere; it's hard to avoid them. After spending 20 years teaching at major universities and a small Catholic college, I refute your claims about "any dissent is unacceptable." Most of my colleagues and I encouraged our students to question everything, to do their own research, while coming to their own conclusions. That is what good citizens should do. I hate to burst your bubble, but evidence seems clear the oligarchs on both sides of the aisle have spent many years brainwashing the less perceptive into accepting their criminal greed (hiding money in offshore accounts to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, starting illegal wars for profit, stealing elections, committing torture and black ops, shipping good middle and working class jobs overseas, pitting people of various races and ethnic origins against each other, etc). For a number of years, the major political parties have become interchangeable. Election fraud is rampant on both sides.
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I read that the Republicans love this for the reasons you mention, and I;m one of 'em
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My point is that the Liberal spin in Hollywood is being done to indoctrinate the population
Probably one of the scariest bits about this conversation is that the concept of habeas corpus, something that is specifically incorporated into your constitution, is considered to be liberal propaganda because it is being applied to a non-white, non US National. share
It feels, to a totally rational INTP, like there is a lot of leftist subversive hate with no facts to back up the claim that NCIS is pushing a liberal agenda. I've been a fan of this show from the beginning and while I wish no ill to the military and police, I would not say I am "pro-" either one. I think it's sad humans use the gift that differentiates them from all other animals, the prefrontal cortex, for xenophobic hate and domination. We are all immigrants to this country of different colors and religions somewhere in our lineage. If you see subliminal messages where others don't change the channel and watch something else. That's the freedom of which I'm a patriot. It's the freedom I all too much fear will soon be lost. Enjoy it while we still have it. That is what I look forward to seeing portrayed as beautiful thing in this show every week. That message comes from an atheist person of 100% white European ancestry whose father served his country in the Army, thank you very much.
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It's not as if they are having a pop at the military .They are however having s shot at private contractors
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