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I never understood this "the guarantee is somebody's gonna die today"

posted 7 years ago by alexaw9
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In the season 1 finale -- wtf? This doesn't happen in any other episode ever and it's such an obvious ploy to make a season finale a real finale and make it memorable and have us waiting on tenterhooks to see who dies. It doesn't make any sense to me that she saves Harrison, so another person she knows has to die. Maybe it's Jack sending her a message, but the way he describes it as a logical, natural result of her saving Harrison, and makes zero sense because 1)it DOESN'T happen naturally, Jack sets it up! 2)it never happens before or again and 3)Jack is all about not messing up fate (even though I won't go into how he still changes SOME things, and that's still 'fate' even though it's not 'death'), but he's messing it up even more than saving someone who's supposed to die, by killing someone who is supposed to live. That's got to be on equal footing of 'bad' as Tru saving Jensen, just in reverse.

I hope I'm not bothering anyone by posting so many topics? (Well, some of them are actually old posts I answered that I hadn't seen previous replies to.) I just love this show and want to continue discussing it, even if I haven't for a while. I started watching it again. And it still bothers me! Veronica Mars got a movie, Firefly got a movie - nothing for Tru Calling?!

[–] trueharrison 7 years ago

In season 2, Jack admits to Tru that him killing Luc was a mistake. I think he just did it because he was angry at Tru for interfering and wanted to teach her a lesson. He was thinking of a short term solution just like Tru's father when he killed her mother, thinking that would be the end of it.

Feel free to post as many topics as you like, I also love discussing the show!

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[–] alexaw9 7 years ago

That's a good point. I guess I shouldn't assume everything he says about fate and death is intended to be correct, but it sure seems like they're trying to say it is, as well as what Tru says is correct, so it's conflicting.

You know what would have been interesting to explore with Jack? If they explored truly changing 'fate'. Because 'fate' isn't just death. If he meets someone at a bar the first day, or idk, trips over his shoelace, isn't that supposed to happen the second day too? Isn't giving him awareness that he's reliving and can change it, giving HIM the power to change fate as well? After all, every action leads to another, another, another, and if, say, he didn't meet the person at the bar he was supposed to, she could have met another man, who she ended up marrying, who abused her, etc etc etc. He's doing the same thing as Tru, just not with death. (Although, when he changes how and where they die, it's still changing fate!)

[–] trueharrison 7 years ago

They did deal with the changing of every day fate, at least from Tru's side. For example, in an episode from season one, Lindsay and Harrison broke up at a bar but Tru warned him not to come on the second day which changed fate in a big way. The guy sitting behind them in the bar ended up talking to Lindsay on the second day because Harrison wasn't there and they found out they had a past together and ended up getting married.

I don't think that Jack can be perfect and make sure that everything he did on the previous day matched up with the rewind day while trying to stop Tru, but he did go out of his way sometimes to make big changes like winning the races (even if it was to pay his bills) that would have affected someone's life in a major way. He even took two months off between Luc's death and the beginning of season two which would have had major repercussions because Tru managed to save them all. I don't think that Jack took his job as seriously as Tru because she would never take any time off and allow Jack to win. This made Jack less than Tru's opposite imo.

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[–] alexaw9 7 years ago

I think we both know Jack only took time off because the plot needed him and Tru not to meet again or have another confrontation until the show picked up again in September.

[–] trueharrison 7 years ago

Yes, but they could've given a better reason like he was in an accident and had to spend 2 months recovering or something.

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