Bets on whether OCC or PJD go out of business first

PJD's other ventures may hang on for a while longer, but the bike business will fold before next summer. Jr's whole business model is dependent on the show's airtime to bring in clients, without that, no-one will pay those prices to have an advertising statue.

OCC on the other hand will whither on the vine. I give it 2-3 years. If Sr wants to stay in business, he'll have to lay off most of the employees and return to being a small shop. I doubt his ego will allow him to go back to the beginning, so he'll shut down suddenly and hide from the creditors. The OCC Cafe will fold once the "pilgrimages" stop, and any hope for a franchise is dead in the water. Carlos must be regretting crawling in bed with Sr on that venture.

Hopefully they have all been preparing for the day when they won't be on TV. Unlike a few years back when it was clear they were spending way too much money, like they thought the ride would last forever.

I have a hard time believing this is the last we see of the Teutels though. Even if they have no series, I bet they pop on TV now and then, with a special or something. I'm sure Letterman will still have them on, although you can't make a living from that.

I doubt Junior survives unless another from of the show is already in the works. I made mention earlier that I thought he was attempting to diversify in order to survive his impending doom. Obviously Discovery had long since made up its mind when they scheduled the show against absolutely brutal competition during the early fall.

OCC will also have to do more production type bikes, but I think their reputation will help them hang on. Junior could limp along for a year or two, but I wouldn't be shocked to hear him being back with OCC in a few years. That said, he seems determined to stay on his own. Hopefully one of his other ventures succeeds.

I'm hoping he and Ricks trophy wives actually have some genuine feelings for them and don't jump ship sometime over the next couple of years.

I'm guessing the shows impending doom is why Mikey popped back on for an episode.

The theme bikes need the show, but if they make a production bike it might keep them alive. And I think they can still make custom bikes for big named clients who wanna play weekend biker and are afraid to go to anyone else. Let's face it, they have a lot of money from doing the show and celebrities will still want to do business with them. Sr will have the most trouble I think keeping his business alive, he has restaurants and a bunch of other stuff that without the show, will probably fail. Jesse James will win the buildoff and kick butt in ratings though. His show is great. Fast and loud ain't too bad either.


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I honestly think OCC has become too big to survive without the show. PJD won't last long after the show is done. OCC will survive, but on a much smaller scale.

In the long run, I think it would benefit both Sr and Jr, if senior retired and sold OCC to Junior. Senior could live his retirement in luxury. And Junior could use the more established name of OCC, and his innovative designs, to bring OCC into the next generation.

Isn't it obvious? Jr. had to make his own bizz after parting from Sr. He doesn't have serious debt problems that Sr. has right now. Sr.'s business has already taken a fall and it's not getting any better. He built up so fast and didn't think of the future. Sr. is trying to save his business by bringing Jr. back but Jr. has kept it real. Jr. thinks outside the box and those are most likely to succeed.

I think all the stars like Senior and Junior will still get paid for all the episodes they've been in over the 10 years! They must have a contract with Discovery that compensates them after the series ends!

From the looks of things, the whole idea for Junior and Senior doing a production bike together is going to fall through. I wonder if this had anything to do with the decision to cancel American Chopper?

Discovery probably would have liked to have had the continuing conflict of Junior and Senior running a business together - a sure recipe for disaster. Without that guaranteed drama, maybe that sealed the decision to cancel.