I didn't like it


I thought the whole idea of the 'dare' game with the box was so...annoying lol.

It was sort of frustrating watching it and i thought the ending was a bit weak.

It was pretty funny thou, and i did laugh. Its just not one of my favourite movies ever, and i found it quite annoying.

Anyways just saying how i felt about it. Thanks Byee. :)

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I loved it!

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I didn't like it (actually, now I realise I like it a bit more than I thought when I saw it)because it was somehow overdone.I think I get the point of where they were trying to go, to show a love shaped as a dangerous game, that's so passionate that it consumes them.But they don't really justify their reactions.
I think they needed a more complicated plot to sustain the idea, because this way I felt some of the characters' actions were just pointless.I can see what the movie was supposed to transmit, but I didn't really feel these emotions.

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I agree with you, I didn't feel these emotions. I tried but I couldn't.
But I liked it. I think it's a sweet and beautiful story, it is funny, interesting and different! I liked the game and their relationship and I loved the characters. I would like to watch it again! I didn't feel the passion or their need to be together with this crazy way...but that's ok. It's a good movie!

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I agree as well. I found the concept and the themes of the movie quite interesting, but I didn't feel the emotions that were needed for me to really connect with the movie. I enjoyed the scenes from their childhood most, and the characters were alright, but not enough to carry the weak and somewhat convoluted plot, I felt.

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I think many people will watch the film and feel nothing. This is not only a matter of sensibility or ones taste. The fact that people watch REALLY good movies and can't feel anything is a result of the hollywood culture; we grow up with movies which are pleasant only for our eyes. Any other film which dives into our mind or soul or keeps us thinking is supposed to be alternative/independent. I can say that a movie is good only when it keeps me thinking of it the next morning!

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Oh, no. That would have completely destroyed the movie, as well as the complexity of the characters.

These characters are supposed to be childish and self-destructive in order to make this entire movie work. The title even makes that clear: Jeux D'enfants.

To lose that element would turn this into... The Notebook, or any other overrated Hollywood romance.

Its their reluctance to let go of these childish games that actually make them more complex than your typical romantic duo.

It would have felt more contrived of characters so selfish and foolish to somehow wise up and start asking questions, it wasn't in Julien's or Sophie's nature to do so.

This film isn't for all tastes, obviously, but it really is refreshing to see a movie that doesn't have the same perfect, yet terribly misunderstood male lead and the same perfect, yet quirky female lead.

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I agree, they weren't supposed to grow up, or to change. It wasn't a tale of redemption, but rather what can happen if we fail to grow up, and continue to indulge in child's play, long, long after we should have quit. Julien and Sophie were caught in an obsessive, childish, emotionally and physically unfulfilled relationship, and they neither wanted to, nor couldn’t change.

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Absolutely agreed. Despite all of their childish games, they still managed to realize what they had without having to grow up, so to speak. That's what makes the movie!

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Agreed.

I think it was a pretty good way of letting the characters develop whilst keeping their essence.

Also Sophie reminded me of a close friend of mine.

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i totally agree with you kerrigan_91



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True..its not complicated enough..the problem with their relationship is only Julien's father who dislikes Sophie..its not a strong reason for them to commit suicide at the end..pointless..

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Haha

Wow i can't believe this post has lasted
[has been almost a year since i made it]

I dont really remember to much of the movie now
but i remember feeling slightly frustrated that they go to such lengths
just for a game? i didnt see the motivation in it.
buuuut thats about all the light i can shed on it.

glad you guys liked it
i thought it was ok for a light comedy you watch
when you dont want to feel any connection with the characters and plot.

...err...yeah k bye. :)

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It's strange, because I felt the same. I wished they hadn't tried to be quite so "funny" - I agree there was nothing funny about the implied suicide at the end, but it just felt that the film as a whole could be much darker and would have been a better film for that. I wished they'd mde it more about the psychology of an obsessive friendship, or as the IMDB Keywords put it: "Mad Love." I think it was more than the game, though - it was the "adrenaline rush" they got from having complete power over the other, knowing that they could request something cruel and humiliating and the person would have to do it.

"Innocence Has A Power Evil Cannot Imagine"
Pan's Labyrinth

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I don't think the movie was supposed to be complex...at least not in sense of plot. It seems that in Hollywood movies, there are lots of plot twists and situations that are not in the control of the characters. This movie however, lacked both. But that is what is refreshing about it. The movie is simple enough--a children's game that continues into adulthood. Rather than plot twists, this movie relies purely on the characters' emotions. In a world where they are forced to grow up, the characters hang on to the only thing (or what they believe is the only thing) that holds them together.

Technically, neither of the characters "had" to do anything. They have their own free will, but they are so caught up in this game that it is all they know. As children, this game was the only way either of them could cope with their lives For Sophie, the game reinforced her position as an outsider in what she felt was a positive manner. It would give her a chance to legitimately bully the kids who harassed her, and the game serves as her backbone. For Julien, it helps him cope with his mother's illness and death. He becomes destructive and sociopathic, and the game serves as his release. They become so reliant on the game that it becomes a part of them when they grow up. It is the only way they have ever known to interact with each other but their relationship is no longer innocent. They love and hurt each other, using the game as an excuse, They don't know how to express their emotions to each other in any other way than using the game.

As for "funny," the film had a lot of quirky lines, but I don't think it was trying to be funny. This is too much emotion and darkness involved for it to be such. These isn't anything in mainstream Hollywood that can even be compared to this. Of course, they say that this is the "#1 comedy from France," so I guess I'm completely off base. At any rate, I found the movie highly enjoyable and I think it is one of the best films I've seen in a long time.

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That's really funny that you call it annoying. I just finished watching it, and when my mom asked how I felt about it, I said I thought "it was annoying."

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Agree, I thought it was gonna be much more romantic, with more sense and plot.

Wouldn't watch it again, as you said, it was weak and the whole game hurting each other feelings was cruel, not my kind of movie.

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I really hated this movie. The dynamic between these two main characters was pretty disgusting, and as a romantic theme I thought the way they hurt each other and the people around them was sort of disturbing.
Do people watch this movie and feel charmed by the relationship?

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as someone who adores the movie, i'm probably posting in the wrong thread... but just to share a bit on why i like it so much and hopefully allow more people to "see the point", so to speak...

firstly, it shouldn't be too difficult to realise that this is not any typical "romance". using mainstream standards, it won't be unusual for some to completely detect no trace of romance between the leads beyond their masterfully crafted chemistry. THAT is the point! it's supposed to be a relationship based on a very different kind of love - i'd say Ludus, but the term may have other connotations. the characters started off with a bit of repression in their childhood (they were outcast) and discovered le jeux (the Game) as a welcome distraction and source of joy. this shared nexus of emotion, experience, and meaning came to be the centre of their relationship, pulling them closer to each other and yet refusing them direct access into each other's deepest feelings.

secondly, even though it is a relationship based on a childish (or perhaps child-like) obsession with taunts and thrills, the emotional aspect still does mirror mainstream understanding quite a bit (at least imho). in most relationships, the involved persons will end up hurting each other at some point or another. think about it... if you are not willing to bear the hurts inflicted upon you by someone, then you will end that relationship sooner rather than later. in a somewhat twisted way (and yet logical too!), hurting a loved one can prove to oneself how much that person loves you in return. i believe that is why the characters display moments of angst and a sense of "betrayed-ness" when the dares hurt them physically or when they feel taken advantage of. it is less illogical or meaningless than you might imagine!

thirdly, i imagine this has been talked to death elsewhere already, but the whole less-than-real mood and feel of most of the film is deliberate - a plot device, if you will. the purpose is to lull the audience into a children's fantasy - to get you to see things as the characters did. and there were the "hyperreal" segments as well - those scenes implied to be in the present, when Julien is married with children and Sophie is a trophy wife - where the adult way of seeing things harshly interrupt their fantasy world. the entire set-up could be seen as a sort of social commentary expressing the tension in a hyperreal world which has abandoned its childhood fantasies and unassuming indulgences. alternatively, it can be seen as a chain anchoring these fictional characters to us - the audience - back in reality, thus allowing those who have had similar experiences some space to ponder.

hope these points helped to clarify some of the more interpretive content of the movie! stories which are situated outside one's usual cultural milieu would demand the viewer to adopt (temporarily) the author's perspective in order for the film to be enjoyable (and for the ending to make sense)... just like love, it often only makes sense to those who want to be in it!

peace.

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I agree totally with Alveolate. I loved it and found both characters sympathetic. I did however particularly like the early childhood segments.

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when they resumed the "dare" game, after those 10 years, and Julien was driving towards his accident and saying how this game was better than heroin, LSD, etc...

it felt like he was a crazy dog going nutts as the master is about to take him out to the park and play fetch the toy.


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I didn't like it either.........I LOVED IT!!! This is one of my favorite movies of all time. I think the screen play is one of a kind, very unique.

Hey, did you ever try dunking a potato chip in champagne? It's real crazy!

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