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Shintaro Katsu is rolling around in his grave


The original Zatoichi films were a million times better than this film. What the hell was that at the end? The fighting was completely staged....Katsu would have run circles around Takeshi. It drives me nuts Beat Takashi had to screw with a good thing.

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I didn´t see "the old movies", but this is still a great film.

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i agree with you completely but cannot denie that this movie was a work of art and a homage that should be respected despite its lack of connection to the original and best.


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I just saw this new film, and was confused by the ending and the blond hair. It wasn't a bad film, tho', it is beautiful to look at and has an interesting story at it's core.
However--Shintaro Katsu is still the best.

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agree with the OP 101% ! (not that Kitano su*ks, I'm a big fan of his flicks)

I've seen 26+1 zatoichi movies(with subs, I'm not from Japan), not that 2003 version is a bad movie; but I'll place it in the last position if I'm going to rate the whole pack.

Again, Kitano is a GREAT actor; but I felt Katsu did a far better job AS Zatoichi.

Somehow it made me feel that the 'anma' was a mean bastard ! And what's with drawing sword first almost every time ?! And where is the lovable humor in those old movies ??


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Of course Zatoichi is the better Zatoichi, he IS Zatoichi. But Kitano was good in the role too, and the film was not bad. My main problem in the film was the CGI blood. It looked a little fake, for obvious reasons.

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It wasn't bad or anything, but it definitely wasn't like the originals. But then again, I don't think it was intended to be. Taking it for what it was, it was a decent film.

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After watching this film the first thing I wanted to do was take my sword and split the monitor down the middle. I yelled instead; which is what I usually do when someone disrespects classic films.

They are called 'classics' for a reason. They don't need to be fixed, edited, re-written or changed in any way. And what would make a studio, producer or director think, by any stretch of the imagination, that they could somehow take a collection of 26 classic films and condense what was built over a period of time down into one film, is beyond comprehension.

So it goes without saying that this film is a big thumbs down from me. And you can't watch this film and properly review it without seeing at least one of the original films, if only out of respect.

If you want to discuss films with some intelligence then gain some knowledge. You can't review a remake without watching the original, it's just that simple. I agree 100% with the original post from hooligan17.

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After watching this film the first thing I wanted to do was take my sword and split the monitor down the middle. I yelled instead; which is what I usually do when someone disrespects classic films.

They are called 'classics' for a reason. They don't need to be fixed, edited, re-written or changed in any way. And what would make a studio, producer or director think, by any stretch of the imagination, that they could somehow take a collection of 26 classic films and condense what was built over a period of time down into one film, is beyond comprehension.

So it goes without saying that this film is a big thumbs down from me. And you can't watch this film and properly review it without seeing at least one of the original films, if only out of respect.
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I love the film because of its oddness. Takeshi Kitano made many brave choices which separates the film from the traditional ones; e.g. by bringing in a revolver(!), and mixing in western dance traditions towards the end. The fighting scenes were meant to look staged (it's a lot of dance scenes in the film, including the fights), just as the blood was deliberately not red.


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Well said, Drakkar. I don't think people get it - it's not Zatoichi - the Remake, it's Kitano does Zatoichi. He loves to make mischief.

If it helps, try thinking of it more along the lines of Blazing Saddles or A Knight's Tale - fun variations on a well-known theme.

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