So uncomfortable


I really, really, REALLY tried to be open minded on this movie, but when I see my favorite actor Liam Neeson kissing another guy I can't help but cringe. And every now and then I had to pause the movie from shock.

I mean is it just me? I really tried to watch this movie without stopping it here and there but I guess I'm a little too old fashioned. It just really made me uncomfortable.

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Did you finish the movie? Cause out of all the things that happen, it's hard to believe two men kissing is the most shocking.

Maybe you should stick to Disney movies.

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Yes, I saw the end and that guy that slept with so many people and animals was also disturbing. It's just odd watching my favorite actor kissing another guy. But no, I don't stick to Disney movies I usually am a fan of gore and violence. It's just the topic of sex makes me uncomfortable.

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It's just the topic of sex makes me uncomfortable.
I wonder why you even watched a sex-related movie then? Also, you didn't say the overall sexuality of the film disgusted you - only the gay kiss did. This, darling, makes you a homophobe.

P.S: That scene was hot as hell.

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Also, you didn't say the overall sexuality of the film disgusted you - only the gay kiss did.


No ... he did NOT say that only the gay kiss disgusted him. He also said "...that guy that slept with so many people and animals was also disturbing", and that "it's just the topic of sex makes me uncomfortable".

This, darling, makes you a homophobe.


It most certainly does NOT make him a homophobe. That's a completely and utterly ridiculous claim! That is like saying that a person who faints at the sight of blood does not support blood transfusions. Or, conversely, that someone who likes watching serial killer movies is themselves a serial killer. The Op himself says that he is "...usually am a fan of gore and violence", but that does not mean he is a violent person, or that he supports violence in the 'real' world. The Op is quite clearly NOT a homophobe - he is "not against gay marriage or gay people" - but watching homosexual acts makes him feel uncomfortable. That is perfectly reasonable and perfectly normal. You can support the death penalty without wanting to see people being executed, just like the Op can support homosexuals and whatever they choose to do, but feel uncomfortable seeing them doing it. What ... should he also be able to watch homosexual sex acts too??? Where is the line drawn exactly?

So ... no ... there is nothing to indicate that the Op is a homophobe - quite the opposite in fact - but you, however, have done a tremendous job of displaying the fact that you are, unquestionably, a bigot...

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[ I mean is it just me? I really tried to watch this movie without stopping it here and there but I guess I'm a little too old fashioned. It just really made me uncomfortable ]

Yep, I'd say you're old fashioned. I would also add uptight and clse minded.

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Without meaning any disrespect to the OP (you are of course entitled to your own feelings and opinions), I'd like to mention here briefly that it always concerns me that people in general seem to be more accepting of violence and gore than they are of human sexuality.

Granted, in the movie concerned, some of the sexuality discussed wasn't on par with what is considered to be "normal", but still. Personally, I find the imagery of a man french kissing a horse a lot less offensive than envisioning war torn countries full of impoverished people for whom violence is an every day occurence.

Maybe it's just me. :D

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The reason people are more "accepting" of violence and gore than human sexuality in movies is because everyone knows that movie violence is fake, no matter how real it looks. Human sexuality can't be faked in movies. For exapmle, when two guys are kissing in a movie, it's two guys kissing, not special effects.

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I thought Liam Neeson and Peter Sarsgaard kissing was hot! ;P


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Kissing / or sex between men/women or any combination, i find so wet inducing.
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right on

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Why would his use of the word "gross" undermine his post? If he finds it repulsive then that's how it makes him feel.

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When watching a movie, one must remember that it is not reality---Neeson is only portraying Kinsey's homosexual behavior and we have no reason to think that the two actors actually engaged in sexual intercourse . Having said that, it was not very comfortable watching it. I felt as though the movie may have had a certain agenda; that is, it was to elicit support for homosexuals and even possibly for sexual deviants. The character who reported frequently committing child-rape only brought further inquiry from Kinsey, no disapproval. At one point, Kinsey tries to justify his "research" as necessary in order to obtain full information. His overt toleration of such deviancy (which is criminal) reveals Kinsey's over-reaction to his father's destructive religious obsession. Anyone who has read portions of Kinsey's Report will understand the "variety" of experiences reported by those who he interviewed.
While I am a practicing hetero-sexual and attempt to practice Christian moral values, the reality is that all kinds of sexual behavior is practiced by people from all sorts of backgrounds, races, religions and cultures. Some of these practices are destructive and lead to despair and even suicide; but then, perverse Christianity (not the authentic kind) leads to despair and suicide as well. Kinsey is depicted in the movie as trying to obtain information that would enlighten; yet, his own co-workers experienced the inevitable conflict (jealous and resentment) that will arise when monogamous relationships are not honored. Kinsey discovered (a bit late) that human sexuality has more dimensions that just a physical act. His scientific "objectivity" blinded him to what human behavior is capable of doing.

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Neeson is definitely one of my very favorite actors, and seeing him making out with another man only further establishes him as a rare talent. The scene made me respect him even more as an actor.

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I felt as though the movie may have had a certain agenda; that is, it was to elicit support for homosexuals and even possibly for sexual deviants.


His research did have an agenda: Extremely little were *known* of American/human sexuality, and no one had done a serious study, instead relying on hear-say, conjecture and antiquated morality.

At the time oral sex were considered deviant and dangerous (even illegal), even though many actually enjoyed it.

The character who reported frequently committing child-rape only brought further inquiry from Kinsey, no disapproval. At one point, Kinsey tries to justify his "research" as necessary in order to obtain full information. His overt toleration of such deviancy (which is criminal) reveals Kinsey's over-reaction to his father's destructive religious obsession.

You should rewatch that scene. Mr. Kinsey looked up on that man and told him that no one should be forced into sex. From the way he said it, it should be obvious that Mr. Kinsey not only disapproved, but considered his acts to be similar to rape. But because he was a scientist, he had to get the data. Also, as stated earlier, at the time oral sex were criminal in a number of states. Should Mr. Kinsey have stopped his study because someone admitted performing or getting oral sex?

Kinsey is depicted in the movie as trying to obtain information that would enlighten; yet, his own co-workers experienced the inevitable conflict (jealous and resentment) that will arise when monogamous relationships are not honored. Kinsey discovered (a bit late) that human sexuality has more dimensions that just a physical act. His scientific "objectivity" blinded him to what human behavior is capable of doing.


Being totally objective is almost impossible - one can only strive. This is the main reason for focusing on the physical act: It can be measured and quantified using the simple tools of the time. Even today, our understanding of brain chemisty is severely limited.

The question that really should boggle your mind, however, is to which degree the jealousness and resentment is a part of how humans are, or if it comes from (Christian) morality imposed on human kind.

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I think this is JUST the movie for you in that case.

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I'm not anti-gay. In fact, I'm actually pro-gay marriage. But watching two men is not pleasing to me. It's actually kind of uncomfortable, especially when it's so forced, awkward, and gross like in this movie.

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:rolls eyes:

It's meant to be awkward. When you use a word like "gross", you undermine the rest of your post.

Is your posting name a reference to Clive Barker's DREAD?

J.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with being made uncomfortable. Aren't you sometimes made uncomfortable by heterosexual displays of sexuality too, depending on the context? I think Professor Kinsey might have even approved of your reaction, if just so you can examine it (as you seem to be doing!). Pretty neat!

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I think that the biggest message that the film can offer is that society has vastly different standards for what is "natural" human behavior. I had to watch this film for a psych class because Kinsey's research was the first of its kind on human sexuality. I used to really be grossed out by homosexual acts by other men. I have come to learned however that homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. Thousands of speces of mammals partake in homosexual behavior and they get along just fine. However, humans have a more complex social structure than any other animal. With the need to fit into this structure comes suppression of behaviors that would normally be fine (and in some cultures homosexuality is perfectly fine).

To the OP, I give you credit for at least trying to understand your feelings. I think that you could benefit from trying to get to the root of why you feel grossed out by that scene. I think that if you understand more about homosexuality you'll probably start to feel more comfortable about it.

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I'm not against gay marriage or gay people. But you're right I'm just not used to seeing homosexual acts. Guess I do need a bit of research =P

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I think exposure is key. I feel uncomfortable watching farm animals mating as well. But had I grown up on a farm, I wouldn't find it uncomfortable or awkward to see. We just need more exposure is all.



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"when I see my favorite actor Liam Neeson kissing another guy I can't help but cringe"

Really? That's all it takes to make you cringe? Brother, you're in for a whole new world of shock if that's all it takes.



"I guess I'm a little too old fashioned"


Looks like it.



Seriously man. Grow up.

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I truly feel sorry for you :(

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