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Saw Solondz Speak Today...


...at a masterclass in Jerusalem. Very interesting - who knew he once studied to be a Rabbi?

Anyways, here's a few things he talked about that I think are relevant 'Palindromes' as well as his others:

-He empathizes and cares about all his characters. Often portrayed as a misanthope by critics, Solondz noted that one of the reasons he's touched on pedophilia in several films is because he wants the audience to form a (somewhat sympathetic, or at least not entirely negative) attachment to people whom society views as beyond reproach. Again, when talking about the Sunshine family - who some might interpret as the villains in this movie - Solondz was clear to emphasize their positive attributes. For example, as another person noted in this forum somewhere, there is an obvious contrast between how Aviva's mom scorns cripples and how the Sunshine family warmly embraces the outcast.

-Someone insinuated that he exploited disabled people in 'Palindromes' (although he referred to the characters as "retards" which made it clear who was more clearly disrespectful). Todd gave a good answer. He said that the scenes with the disabled children were funny, regardless of whether the characters are disabled or not. He said to make fun of someone for having a disability is "obscene," but that (and I'm generously paraphrasing here) to avoid humour when working with the disabled is ridiculous. As someone who has worked in the human services, I was impressed by his very assured, respectful answer.

-When the child actors were filming sex scenes, they were fully clothed and their parents were in the room. Todd had mixed feelings about child actors, and said that he wouldn't encourage a child to act. He also said that a child actor didn't have the same understanding of the material, and that one must be very careful and considerate when working with children.

-Finally, he said that Mark Wiener's speech at the end was a very close approximation to his own thoughts and feelings. He said that Mark Wiener had a much bleaker outlook, but that he shares the basic ideas. Which, given his output, is not at all surprising.


Anyways, if you get the chance to Solondz speak, I would highly recommend going. He's intelligent, candid and funny, and I'm sure you'll gain a much deeper understanding of his films.

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thank you for this! it's not often you find a useful factual post on IMDB

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Thanks for posting!
it was really interesting

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I appreciate your post on Solandz's comments- it's very interesting indeed! I am curious however, about the part that he discusses about his empathy towards his characters- I finally watched Palindromes and I definately feel the empathy and connection with the characters, and Avivas, in the film. However I can honestly say that with a movie such as Happiness ( which still remains my favorite Solandz movie)- I honestly saw no empathy whatsoever. It seemed more or less a brilliant social satire by a non-nihilistic but very fine tuned and observant cynic! I've often read about Solandz's sympathy for the pedophile archetype, however unlike Palindromes, the pedo father from Happiness (which many do argue is a sympathetic character), seemed, strictly in my own personal observations, a capital example of selfish, indulgent hypocrisy and greed. I didn't feel there was a dynamic of implied warmth, innocence or struggle as I did with the pedo in Palindromes. Now, I'm sure I do a bit of projecting of my own personal views on pedophilia since I'm 0% empathic on the subject and view them as monsters. However, I did pick up the multi-layered and conflicted nature created in the pedo character in Palindromes where this just didn't seem like the implied nature of the pedo in Happiness.

I've also heard it said here, which was how the movie struck me, that one of the overriding themes is that love is a selfish act. That love, like "happiness"
lol, are ironically, what we pursue in order to connect and find fufillment, and yet tend to often lead us lonelier than all other pursuits. Is this what you gather from Solandz's comments? Or does he have an outlook that is more positive?

I'm also curious, I saw another post here where someone posted a quote from Solandz where he says that abortion doctors are heroes and martyrs... for a man who seems rather centered on the subject (feeling that it's a necessary social right that's sadly abused and exploited), that seems a rather extreme and in all honesty, silly quote- I'm wondering if you've ever heard that quote yourself because it seems from the lecture you heard, that quote from the other post is either taken extremely out of context or perhaps false. (and yes, there are some abortionists who have been killed by extremist pro-lifers, but it's hardly a dangerous job!!)

If you have the opportunity to write back I'd appreciate it!

"You're maudlin and full of self-pity. You're magnificent!"
-- George Sanders, All About Eve

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