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How much did you hate Maggie in this movie?


Her character I mean. What a golddigger.

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I felt sympathy for her in the end...she truly loved the Tom Arnold character, but her "bill came due" for her wicked past behavior. She knew that she could never make him trust her or see the truth of her love, so she resigned herself to the relationship's end. Her "swan song" performance at the end is heartbreaking.
I predict Maggie will have Streep's stature as an actress twenty years from now.

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funny, thats what tom arnold said on the extras too.

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We dont say hate, we say strongly-dislike. She was edgy in the movie and always plotting to crash at diff places. I thought her singing was enuff for me to find some downloads with her and put on my Ipod. I liked her enuff and admire how clever she was devising plans and pumping schemes.

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No offense but it's difficult taking advice on semantics/word choices from someone who spells, "enough", "enuff". Twice. Please.

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Really, Tom saw it this way? I totally did not think she loved him. She manipulated people nonstop to get what she wanted. The sympathetic aspect of her character is that she is a pathetic person who will always end up alone and unloved, because she values money and these kinds of things over genuine relationships. She was never 'honest' which is why her singing 'Honesty" is, juxtaposing, or something.

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I think she loved him. The film states "Jude is the one who is in trouble," because she is the one who falls for him for real and gets hurt.

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I liked her in this role, actually my interest become more solid with her performace in this movie

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I didn't hate "Maggie" in the film.
She's a descendent character of Dede, played by Christina Ricci in an earlier Roos film, The Opposite of Sex.
However, unlike the opportunistic young woman in that film, Happy Endings does not make Jude the main character.
In digital terms, Jude's the zero, and Dede's the one.

Impressed by Maggie's singing, even if it was the old Billy Joel catalog.
She's just the bee's knees.

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I also felt sympathy for her and I ended up wanting her to be happy in the end and it is sad when she is just singing and you can tell she screwed up. I think gave a wicked awesome performance, she is such a great actress in my mind at least. And i for one loved her role in this film.

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I think everyone felt some deal of sympathy for Jude at the end for two reasons:

one: we really are suckers for pretty ladies. She could be absolutely rotten every moment she's onscreen, but if you get an attractive female character to shed genuine tears, everyone feels for her.

two: in many ways, its the last song Jude should be singing, and that's why it works. What character in this movie loves someone "just the way they are" and asks for nothing more? No one, especially not Jude. If anything her song is her yet again taking on the role of the siren falsely luring men toward her.
But we get the idea that, as her life possibly crashes around her, she realizes that all she really wants-- all any character in the movie wants-- is unconditional love. But it's perpetually out of reach... and that's a very sad realization.

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I didn't start liking her until the part where Otis tells her dad all about her and him being gay and she tells him she's pregnant. He then says something like:
Frank: Really? Is it a boy?
Otis: You already have a son!
Frank: Or a girl I just wanna know.

I thought that she realized if her kid was a boy then Frank might abandon Otis or something. You saw how Frank acted he said "He's still my only son." or something having another son might be his push over the edge. No matter how cruel she could've been she couldn't seperate them. That's what I think.

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Like most people, I sympathized for Jude.
She was protecting Tom Arnold's character by not telling him about the baby. Due to her past gold-digging ways, you assumed she didn't "love" Tom Arnold's character, but it turned out to be quite the opposite.

Maggie Gylenhall (sorry about spelling) was amazing as Jude and showed off her weaknesses and strengths perfectly - it's just sad that she was the ONLY one who did not find a happy ending.

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I had complete sympathy for Jude and whilst I sort of wish she'd had a happy ending as well, I think it was better for the film that she didn't as there was still the mystery around her character that was present even when she was first introduced at the very beginning.

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who says she didn't have a happy ending?

Our little text-narrator just says he "can't think of where she is"

Maybe from escaping his story telling (which is tragic in so many ways) she is the real winner, the real happy ending.

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^Same.^

She had the perfect opportunity to keep herself ingrained in their lives by keeping the baby-like her friend Lane said, a prenup wouldn't even matter if she had his baby. But after seeing how Dad was so excited about the possibility of having a son (a "real" son, in his mind) and Son's reaction to Dad's question, she quickly realized what was going on. Their relationship was very tenuous at that point, and she could have destroyed it forever. She chose not to. In the end, she came around and did what was best for Frank and Otis, putting someone else before her own desires. I believe she did love Frank, at least as much as she was capable, and that proved it.

I don't know if I agree with her having an abortion, but as the movie pointed out, giving it up for adoption can have some strangely unforseen consequences. Keeping it would have been extremely difficult for someone like her, but abortion still seems a little extreme IMO.



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Maggie Gyllenhaal's pretty?

Really?

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I think she's very pretty, and she looks like a real woman, not some plastic surgery barbie-doll wannabe. I agree with the poster who said she will have Meryl Streep's stature as an actress in twenty years.

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I actually found her character interesting. I think out of all the characters she accepts who she is and just lives with what life throws at her. Note her temporary living arrangements never really work out so shes in this constant state of survive-by-the-day routine.

It's like she has so many things that she could concievably be upset about but she shruggs things off because she knows that crying won't change things, and just needs to move on before she lets things get to her.
I think we finally start to see that little characteristic in her near the end when she tells frank she pregnant and she shows some genuine emotion. She took a chance and told him the truth, and it blew back in her face. And again we see her resort back to that ruthless leech we all thought we hated.
It's like a survival technique for her. We don't know much of her past, but I get the feeling she might have had a tough time growing up.


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She was very hateful in the beginning but my hatred changed to compassion when she later on realized how messed up she was. Her character remains an enigma.

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I didn't like her at all, and felt no sympathy for her. Why should I? Certainly not because she got pregnant and had an abortion. As far as losing Frank, she sort of had it coming. And I'm not really sure I buy that she really loved him. And I don't necessarily think she changed.

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Towards the end of the movie - Lane comments to Frank about Jude saying "She's (Jude) is still fat, though."

I took it to mean that Jude was still pregnant - she never had the abortion - we see Jude getting stopped pulling into the parking lot but we never see anything else. Then, Lane says that Jude is still fat - at this time Jude is probably starting to show.

Mamie (the one that gave up her birth child) said to Jude that the decisions we make are bigger than ourselves - Jude seemed to take this in after being offended by Mamie saying baby - which I found strange because all pregnant women are pregnant with a baby. Was Mamie supposed to say "the something you created when you had unprotected sex with a boy to use him & blackmail him or the something you created when you used sex to make Frank fall in love with you."

I think the reason we see Jude singing at the end - and are not told about her happy ending is because we watched her happy ending in progress: she got pregnant, decided to keep her baby, and because of the baby she changed & will never use anyone anyone again by exploiting their vulnerabilities. We don't need to be told about Jude because we see her from being the one in trouble while talking to Frank on the bed to being told via Lane that she's still fat (because she's still pregnant) - Jude's happy ending was created when she decided to keep her child.

I think that Mamie was trying to tell Jude "look I made mistakes I gave my child up for adoption & I wish I would have had someone in my life tell me that once you get pregnant your life changes forever, you are changed forever regardless if you are prochoice or prolife - once you become pregnant nothing can get rid of that - you will carry this pregnancy in your heart forever regardless of what you do - so please do the right thing - make the right choice."

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I may need to go back and rewatch that part of the film but I think when Lane said "she's still fat", she was referring to the band's singer. Earlier in the film, when they recruited Jude, they talked about how the regular was in rehab for binging and purging.

I loved Jude and Maggie did a great job in the role, and her singing is amazing. I think she sang in the movie she did with Jeff Bridges, but it wasn't in the trivia.

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