Animal Abuse?


I'm not some sort of animal rights activist, I know that death in movies is fantasy and I am just curious. What exactly does it mean when it is said a window is painted red with a chihuahua? What other types of animal type things are in this movie?

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I actually thought the Chihuahua scene was sort of funny.
Anyway, he swings a Chihuahua around by it's leash, then slams it into the window. Blood gets on the window, yadda, yadda...

As for any other types of animals things... there's an umm... cow head thing in the movie. If that counts?
I don't recall any other kind of animal violence other than the Chihuahua though.

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I'm no animal rights activist either, but I hate seeing animals abused. The violence in Miike's films is intense, but not usually gratuitous. If you watch this guy violently grab the dog and smash it repeatedly on the ground and window, you are sickened, as are some of the hardened criminals looking on. But this happens very early on in the film and seems important for character development; it tells a lot about a person if they're capable of this. (I'm trying to be very general because it appears you didn't see the movie yet.) I love animals too, but I don't think this scene should turn you off from the movie. I liked American Psycho, but thought the dog-stomping scene in it was the most disturbing. This movie is not as violent as Ichi the Killer or Audition, but I also found the chihuahua scene to be the hardest to watch personally. Check it out if you like Miike. If you haven't seen his work yet try Audition first; in that context you'll see the chihuahua actually had it easy!

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Yeah, I'm still going to watch this, I was just curious as to how this dog was killed. I bought the Uncut Audition DVD about two weeks ago, great movie.

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the brilliant part about the dog, if you read the film essays on the DVD is that there is a commercial in Japan for a bank featuring a similiar dog. So there is a use of symbolism in that scene apperantly.

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Haha... come on... the moment he grabs the leash, the dog transforms quite obviously into a stuffed animal...

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What the hell? It's a movie. No real dogs were killed. People watch movies like Saw and other violent movies where people are dismembered, but freak out when an animal is killed. It's not real!

What a waste. Oh, the humanity!

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I laughed at this scene, it wasn't in the slightest bit realistic. It reminded me of the scene from There's Something About Mary except more bloody.

Great film though.

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It is in a similar vein to the scene in 'A Fish Called Wanda' where the old lady's terriers get squashed by the bungling assassin.

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Have you all seen the movie?! What about the beaver abuse at the end?

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Agreed, the Chihuahua or whatever it was clearly turned into a stuffed animal which made the scene extremely comical. The chihuahua getting killed is meant to illustrate Ozaki's insanity, as he says it's a "special kind of dog that kills only Yakuza", and later says the same of a car following him and his brother on the way to the freaky town. I think it's great, it starts the movie off on a comical note (I love dogs, I HATE animal cruelty, so don't think I'm for animal cruelty is the reason why I think it was amusing) and it serves to remind you that this has a vein of humor buried in all the horror (see the Yakuza boss, omg that was disturbing and funny). Gozu broke my head, but I loved it nonetheless.

Cannibal Holocaust...ok, why would they butcher real animals, how could a movie like that get any kind of release without the PETA people freaking out on them? ...what get's killed, cows or something?

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From what I heard, Turtles have their shell's broken open, they slice open rat's or something. A bunch of sick stuff.

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I saw CH and still remember the turtle scene :(

Apparently deodato regrets the killing of animals in that film

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It's well documented and infamous for many things, including the animal killings. All those scenes are still cut in the UK.

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If you honestly think that a depiction of an animal being brutally killed is "friggin hilarious" there may be few ways to deal with you that don't involve rusty nails and a heavy cinderblock.

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He was referring to the chihuahua scene, which is intentionally very darkly funny.

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The scene's hilarious.

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Have you even seen the film? As soon as it picked up it is so obviously a stuffed toy that it reminded me of the bit in Anchorman where Jack Black punts the dog off the bridge. And swinging it around on the lead was very, very funny.

And it's NOT A CHIHUAHUA!!! It's some other type of toy dog altogether.

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And it's NOT A CHIHUAHUA!!! It's some other type of toy dog altogether.


It's a long hair Chihuahua.

There's lots of them.

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TBH I thought it was a little monty python'ish. It took me by surprise and i nearly shat my trousers with laughter. love the movie. got to love Miike


I hired the movie from block busters and none of there scenes are cut on that :S

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Even though I knew it was fake as hell, since I love animals, it still mortified me.

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Wow. Somebody ought to tell Ruggero Deodato about this. Apparently his corpse is still making movies today! Other interesting tidbits available at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078935/trivia

Regarding the dog scene in Gozu:
Whenever I see an animal in a movie like this, I get a little queasy, dreading what might happen to it. In Gozu, however, the dog is so obviously fake (once picked up) that all it aroused in me was a Saturday Night Live-style chuckle.

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"Cannibal Holocaust is 100% real. The filmmakers were killed in production."


What the hell are you talking about? You are joking right?

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Are you talking about the "Last Road to Hell" documentary footage? Deodato didn't stage any killings for that footage. No one was killed in the making of the film.

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MrGreen428 you dont know what the hell youre talking about.

The original controversy surrounding the film's release was the belief that Cannibal Holocaust was an actual snuff film, or that the actors were murdered in order to film their deaths for the movie. The film was confiscated ten days after premiering in Milan and Deodato was arrested. The courts believed not only that the four actors portraying the missing film crew were killed for the camera, but that the actress in the impalement scene was actually skewered in such a manner. To make matters worse for Deodato, the actors had signed contracts with him and the producers ensuring that they would not appear in any type of media, motion pictures or commercials for one year after the film's release in order to promote the idea that the film was truly the recovered footage of missing documentarians. Thus, when Deodato claimed that he had not killed the group, questions arose as to why the actors were in no other media if they were alive.

"Eventually, Deodato was able to prove that the violence was staged. He contacted Luca Barbareschi and told him to gather the other three actors. After voiding the contracts in order to avoid life in prison, Deodato brought the foursome onto the set of an Italian television show, which satisfied the courts. He still faced the challenge, however, of proving that the impalement scene was merely special effects. In court, he explained how the effect was achieved: a bicycle seat was attached to the end of an iron pole, upon which the actress sat. She then took a short length of balsa wood and held it in her mouth and looked skyward, thus making it look like she had been impaled. Deodato also provided pictures of the girl interacting with the crew after the scene had been filmed. After being presented with this evidence, the courts dropped all murder charges against Deodato.

Despite Deodato being exonerated for murder, the courts still wished to ban the film because of its extreme nature. The decision was made to ban Cannibal Holocaust because of the genuine animal slayings, citing animal cruelty laws. Due to this ruling, Deodato, the producers, screenwriter, and the United Artists representative each received a four-month suspended sentence after being convicted of obscenity and violence. Deodato spent three additional years fighting in the courts to get his film unbanned. Finally, in 1984, the courts ruled in favor of Deodato, and Cannibal Holocaust was granted a rating certificate of VM18 for a cut print (it would later be re-released uncut)





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Sorry to burst your bubble (Maybe not since you might be relieved of the news anyway...sorta) but the people involved in Cannibal Holocaust were not killed.

Sadly the animals in the footage were.

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no humans were actually killed. they even had a trial because they thought it was a snuff scene. the only real things are the animal deaths, which i think is disgusting that a person could kill and torture animals like that.

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The turtle scence was by far and away the most disturbing part of the film. I knew it was coming and it still made me sick to my stomach. It was one of those things that you and you just can't un-see. Every time I see a turtle now that is all I think of. Who knew they were so gushy on inside?


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No, the dog killing here was hilarious because it's clearly a fake dog from the minute he picks it up. Plus the reactions on the other character's faces are priceless.

I found the bestiality gag in Dead or Alive more disturbing, as that's obviously a real dog.

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