Why remake this?


Why are they remaking a great movie? There's no way this USA crap will be able to shine up to the Kirk Douglas classic of the same name.

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No kidding. I have an idea. Why don't we remake Citizen Kane for TNT starring Dennis Franz? Now, don't get me wrong, I'm in love with have the cast of the USA miniseries for this and think some of them are top-notch actors. Angus McFadyen is uber-talented. Goran Visnjic is hot and isn't a terrible actor. James Frain is superb. Henry Simmons can act pretty well and he's gorgeous too. Still, the cast isn't enough to make up for the fact that this never should have been remade --let alone for tv...

--Kat

"Every face spoiled by beauty,
Every adult tamed by duty,
Is falling at your feet…"
-Bono

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Sorry, you are wrong. If you had read the original book, this version more closely resembles Howard Fast vision. Also in our day and age, Crassus is so very closely related to our own George W. I think this is a metaphor about where America is going and how now is the time to change or we will become the Roman empire. Scary but true. Robert Dornhelms version will stand the test of time.

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I'm of the belief that people can create their own metaphors and allegories wherever they want to see them if they want to believe they're there badly enough. That's how a lot of armchair philosophers are born. Just a personal feeling.

Like I said, book and original story aside, I did not care for the television version. If it does, indeed, that closely resemble its two predecessors, then I think they must be poorly-constructed as well. I adore classic Greek and Roman stories, novels, and films. As a result, I've come to know more about the period and expect a lot from material about them them. (I have never gotten around to renting Sparticus though. Weird, I know). This movie had uber-thin, two-dimensional characters (up until they did things that did not follow them at all and were given no reason --not even for the audience to guess.) I'm going to guess that maybe the fault of the actors themselves. It's up to them to develop their character they portray as clearly as possible within the confines of the script. If what you're saying is true and this does do the original and the book justice, then the actors themselves must be the thing that have me hung up thinking this is a poor show. But the character who was so under-developed and predictable was Crossus himself --and I think Angus McFadyen is a great actor.

Look, the bottom line is you're more than welcome liking the show, book, and original film. You have your reasons. Just the same, I have my own reasons and I don't like it. I think I'm entitled to that.

--Kat

"Every face spoiled by beauty,
Every adult tamed by duty,
Is falling at your feet…"
-Bono

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I demur. As I noted elsewhere, this production is well done, and probably more historically accurate than the earlier film (to the extent we really know the details of the true slave revolt) The original was tied up in the politics of the late 1950s and early 1960s, and thus another approach is welcome. At least Tony Curtis isn't in this version (although Ustinov and Olivier will be missed). I really look forward to part 2 tonight. 6000 crosses lining the Via Appia will be a sight to see!

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They should have cast an actor that at least looked a little like the descriptions of Spartacus. He looked rather hideous, scars all over his face, kinda like he was put through a wood chipper.








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As I noted elsewhere, this production is well done, and probably more historically accurate than the earlier film...

I'm going to have to disagree. To be perfectly honest, I've not seen the original all the way through. I hated this one based on itself. So, it's not as if I'm comparing it to the classic original.

I'm not sure which of these elements are present in the original, but so many things were cliche. One of my majors is Theatre, and my roommate's is English. Based on what we both know about general story flow and character development, we called situations in the tv movie long before they happened (although anyone else could have):

"Let me guess, the baby is born just as Sparticus dies..."

"He's going to feed her some line about always being in the stars..."

" 'I don't know the end to the story, Sparticus (Jr.). It's up to you..."

Pleeeease. Don't even get me started on the fact that there was no character development or motivation. Why did Crassus decide to let her keep the baby? It's not just that. His character was simply the "bad guy" and that was supposed to be enough. Just an antagonist for a plot. Anyway, I don't mean to slam your opinion. You're entitled to it. (Heck, I think I'm the only person on the planet that thinks So, I Married an Axe Murderer is one of the funniest films ever made.) I'll admit it's crap plot-wise, but I love it just the same. Okay, enough blathering.

--Kat

"Every face spoiled by beauty,
Every adult tamed by duty,
Is falling at your feet…"
-Bono

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Why remake a classic? Simple, many people have no interest in classic movies. If it looks old, younger people tend not to watch it, so if you got a good story that you want to be remembered then you need to revisit it for the current times. The original was amazing and Kirk delivered what is quite possibly his greatest role ever, but a lot of people don't care because they won't watch a 44 year old movie. Perhaps seeing this remake will inspire those people to go rent the original. When you think about it, reasons for remaking a movie are very clear. Either the original is too old to still generate a lot of interest, or the original wasn't all that good or faithful to the source material.

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That's why! For 1 thing, while Kirk Douglas is really of Russian stock (Issur Danielovitch is his real name), at least Goran Visnjic (sp?) is really Serb; therefore closer to the real Thracian roots of the real SPartacus. Further,as I said in my previous post - the wide-screen SPARTACUS was a product of the egos of DOugals, Kubrick and Trumbo, that a new telling was in order; closer to Howard Fast's book. I've never read Fast's book, but I wonder how far or close that is to the original; and if anything, his version is also probably highly fictionalized since there probably are very main ACCURATE renditions of Spartacus' TRUE story. I mean he was Enemy #1 for Rome which had a written language -- so the victors, the ROmans, naturally rule written history. And the offical Roman policy probably was to debunk or play down this arrogant upstart's story. SO whatever truth there is/was about SPartacus was an oral history and you know how that goes... ANyway, I found this new version to be a lot more credible and entertaining than the previous one.

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i haven't actually seen the original 1960 version, but i did really like this newer one. i just wanted to say that goran visnjic is actually croatian and not serbian :)

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Because unoriginality sells. Imbeciles who would not see the real adaptation of "Spartacus" will likely see this drivel instead. Many thinking viewers will hesitantly decide to watch it, too, if only to see how unintentionally ridiculous it is, and how it butchers the true Spartacus - just as one might be repulsed by, yet still tempted to see a dead six-legged calf with three eyes. Sadly, a dead six-legged calf with three eyes would still be infinitely more interesting and entertaining - and even prettier - than this ludicrous travesty ("remake") could ever hope to be.

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Well maybe because you can watch the entire mini series of the remake of Spartacus and not find one Gladiator from the Bronks,like the Tony Curtis character, saying "I luv ya Spa-da-gus." The Kirk Douglas version is entertaining in its own very Hollywood way, but it is not the quality version we find in this wonderfully acted mini series. This new version is really something that belongs on Masterpiece Theatre.

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