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anyone who has a Dakota Fanning fansite...


and openly defends pedophiles on a movie posting for a pedophile...is a disgusting human being.

AND post continuously on the boards of children actresses...is a disgusting human being.

I think pedophiles should get LIFE in prison... REAL prison with the general population.
The end.

"I solemnly swear I am up to no good."

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I think it would be fantastic if pedophiles got stoned. Actually it would be more than fantastic. I dare you to go out into the public and declare your little perverse attraction and see what happens. You post openly on a forum about your attraction to little girls and expect not to get flamed for that? Gimme a break. I don't care if you aren't breaking the law you are still a pervert and to prevent you from breaking any laws I would cast the first stone.

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to prevent you from breaking any laws I would cast the first stone
It's because of people like you that they invented courts and laws in the first place. You are far closer to being a criminal than asianyuna will ever be.

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and openly defends pedophiles on a movie posting for a pedophile...is a disgusting human being.

AND post continuously on the boards of children actresses...is a disgusting human being.


Who is the OP talking about????

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Not sure if i wanna defend peados,think ill keep out of this one.

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I hate to say it, but you do have a point. The only ones we have to judge them by are the ones who victimize a child, there are probably many, many more that remain "closeted" because they never act on their feelings. But, I don't think it will ever be safe for a known pedophile to be around young children.


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So you see nothing at all wrong with a man who admits to fantasizing about molesting a toddler getting employment at a Day Care facility? I think pedophilia is a mental defect, and it should be treated as such. The reason I think universal condemnation of pedophiles is wrong is because they are unable to get the help they really need. There is nothing normal about a grown man fantasizing about prepubescent children.

Maybe you are an idiot after all, as well as (obviously) a pedophile yourself.

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So you see nothing at all wrong with a man who admits to fantasizing about molesting a toddler getting employment at a Day Care facility? I think pedophilia is a mental defect, and it should be treated as such.
Is pedophilia a mental defect? Of course it is (then again, so is phobia of spiders, or being a vegetarian - I'm not even kidding). But you don't need to be a psychiatrist to understand the nature of it. It's sexual attraction to children. It's not fantasies of molesting them. Also, it's (usually) not a delusional illness. The cases you read about in the newspapers and hear about on TV are actually the exceptions - just like rapists are the exception to a normal healthy man who is just interested in women in the completely natural way.

Speaking of that, most men are attracted to women. And let's face it, some 15-17 year old girls look like they could be 20. Should we ban male teachers from teaching girls of that age in schools?

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I find it hard to believe that a pedophile could separate his attraction to children from his desire to work around them. And, most 16 or 17 year old girls are more capable of avoiding a potential sex offender than a toddler. As to what you said about the ones we hear about being an exception, even if it is 10 percent of pedophiles that would molest if given an opportunity, that is too high of a number for my taste.

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Generalizations.
1. Pedophiles (I'm American, not British) have a physical/mental/emotional attraction to prepubescent children; the legal definition has been expanded to include kids up to 13 although most of these kids are (clearly) pubescent.
2. Having a sexual attraction isn't a crime, which separates a pedophile from a child molester.
3. The majority of molesters are males 20-45, and include all races, socio-economic classes, and sexual preferences; female molesters are rare and are usually 25-45.
4. There are two types of molesters: Situational (often involving a stepchild, relative or girlfriend's child or a child in his/her care (like a preschool worker, teacher, counsellor, boy scout leader, cop or priest/pastor); a child is much more likely to be abused by someone (s)he knows than a stranger) and predatory, which are much more dangerous and at times lead to the kidnapping/rape/murder of the victim.
5. Any crime or moral violation begins with the thought. Although a pedophile (by definition) hasn't committed a crime (yet) (s)he has the mental baggage that could easily allow a molestation to occur.
6. Situational molestation is a violation of trust. Grooming is a term used to describe the choosing and preparation of a child for an act of molestation; most molested children trusted their molester and much of the mental baggage is more a result of the violation of this trust than any sexual act itself (unless penetration is involved, which also includes oral sex.) In many cases the molester is trusted by both the child and the family involved; the disclosure is usually devastating and sometimes met with disbelief and denial, which is further damaging to the victim.

I'll agree with the poster who says a pedophile shouldn't be stigatized for his/her thoughts alone; they should be able to seek professional help and also the support of family and friends. The problem here is that every adult has sexual urges and probably what some would regard as perverted thoughts and actions; such is human sexuality. However few of us regard children as sexual objects, and while our heads might be turned by a pretty little 13 or 14 year old girl who is suddenly becoming a woman, we overrule our sexual instinct with learned judgment and move on. A pedophile doesn't always have that barrier in place; that is the danger.

In regard to the movie, Walter has crossed the line and been punished for it with 12 years in prison. His counselling is shoddy at best; in no way should he be allowed not to disclose what occurred between him and his sister (nor would it be in modern post-prison therapy.) His forays to the mall and park are treading dangerously close to re-molesting. (He also wouldn't be allowed in any state including PA to live across from a school or playground.)

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very insightful. child molester/pedo/stranger/friend or foe, all these can stay the hell away from my child :)

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Maybe this is a late response to your post, but I am really shocked by your words. But then you are a reporter, right? The media are not only always swept along the waves of hype and trend, but they rarely ever seem to be able to intellectually think about certain things.

You say pedophilia is a mental defect. You are correctly stating the view of todays world. But have you ever read a history book? Lots of societies in our past treat sexuality a lot different, including the boundaries of age and gender. Had you lived in such an era, your views, I suppose, would have been the correct ones of THAT society. You seem to be unable to see the difference between hype and opinion. You follow hypes and do not think for yourself. If you did, you would not have treated a person who tries to have an intelligent debate about this as a monster and accuse him of god knows what.

Question for a nice debate: where does the trauma and shame start after having been molested as a child? Is it the child, who is a blank when it comes to sexuality, that feels shame for what it did or had done to it, or is it the world itself that teaches the child something shameful has happened to it? Who traumatizes the child - the molester or the reaction of the world?

I am talking about very young children now, not teenagers who bloody well know the difference between inappropriate behaviour and intimate behaviour. I am talking about children who don't even know what sex is.

PS: maybe an example will help understand what I mean. And believe me, I am not saying pedophilia isn't wrong, I just think that if we don't discuss, as a society, all the ins and outs of children and sex, we are missing a vital opportunity to understand ourselves, as humans, a lot better. So here's the example, very simple one: you are a child and having fun playing doctor with a friend. Your mother walks in and starts yelling blue murder for the shame of what you are doing. You had no idea it was wrong, but now that you know how the world feels about these games, you start to feel ashamed and dirty. So was it wrong to play the game in the first place? And did that game make you feel shameful? No, it was mom's reaction to it, I would say. This is something we need to discuss: do we make it worse by reacting that way? Do we make the trauma worse??

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AREN'T they stoned, in the FIRST place? I mean, what were they on? Absinthe? 'Shrooms? Heorin? Cocain? L.S.D.? (Yuk. Yeha, I know what you REALLY referred to, by "stoned..")

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Like Jack MacClellan?:-)

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No death penalty, though?

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