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What's the scoop of the audience on France?


Curious - how's JLG's latest going over in his nativeland? Any word at all on a US release date perhaps?

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his 'nativeland'? what are we all patriotic soldiers each fighting for our 'countries' now? nah sorry mate, anyone who thinks in terms of nativeland and blood in france is some rich ignorant upper class prat.
as for godard's popularity in france; there's this myth around him, its as if he started it all off, and even though everyone who is +/- artistic/intellectual knows he started the new wave, i was surprised to find out how many people didnt know him and had never seen a film by him. my answer is pretty ambiguous, lets wrap it up. as everywhere, it depends what type of person you're talking to; but the crowd at notre musique the first day was pretty good, but they took the movie off 2 weeks later to give space to..i don't know, spiderman 2 or something. but sadly enough this phenomena is seen throughout the world; everything is pushed aside for the big money making block busters by names like bruckheimer etc. how very encouraging for us fellow director aspirers.
(conclusion; ignorant-on-the-subject-of-art people aren't limited to one geographical location; theyre're everwhere)

it's a dirty world Reich, say what you want

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First off, I am not 'upper class prat' as you call it. I'm just around lower-middle class, maybe a little bit more, like the dead-center of middle class, if there is one in the US. I didn't mean nativeland in a negative connotation- perhaps I might've sounded better if I just said "How's his latest going in France?" And I'm not thinking in terms of 'blood', whatever that is.
Secondly, I can understand that there are a good deal of people who don't know how Godard is. At my college I'm apart of a student film association, and only one of the guys around my age (he was a senior to my sophmore last semester) knew Godard's work, and hadn't seen anything in his career past Weekend. While there are a couple of teachers there who know him and admire him, even my own mother, who was the one I will credit to introducing me to directors like Fellini and Truffaut and various old and foreign movies, only heard of Godard as being one of those kids of "ultra-artsy, Frenchie directors". And except maybe for one other close friend, I don't think any of them would touch Godard with a 20 foot pole. In all truth, I only had a vague notion of who Godard was until 1) I watched an interview with Tarantino where he mentioned him as a direct influence (from this interview I also learned the names of Melville, Fuller, directors whose films I'm slowly getting through), and 2) I kept on reading about how Breathless was the one film, along with 400 Blows, that kicked off the French new wave. I wasn't as impressed as some when I first watched Breathless, but the style he had intrigued me enough to seek out his other work, even his obscure *beep* in the eighties, and I love some of it, dis-like some of it. I agree totally with you, that cinemas tend to push out films quickly to get in new and better films.....I thank you for the info on Notre Musique, and I can only hope it'll come to the States sometime (I'm guessing it might be a year- it took that long in between In Praise of Love's Cannes premire and its New York premiere).

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wrong
dont get me wrong man the upper class prat was for if you were french.
i know that in america words like motherland and homeland and nativeland and all those are completely natural, but in france it just doesnt work because noone but rich prats believe in concepts like this (the ones who have never seen a arab:african ghetto before and think france is a super cool place to live in). although i love paris (im french based) the reality of things concerning racism and immigration are a real mess.
and what you said about artsy frenchie films, funnily enough thats what people call his films in france also ' intellectual arty farty films ' isnt it annoying how some peopple cant recognise good art when it hits them in the face. french people are beginning to prefer blockbuster comedies to art and as much as france likes to hate america (and vice versa) french people love american movies. i dont mind them either, i just sometimes like to watch a film with a smidge of quality rather than runaway bride or something.

it's a dirty world Reich, say what you want

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thanks for letting me know.

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because Godard was born in Switzerland and he lives there now.

Actually, I'm just being an ass. Of course the reaction of the French audience is important--it's one of the few cultures in the world that gives cinema its due.

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I thought he lived between Switzerland and Paris, like he had two sects of families in each country or something.

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Nah, he's a hermit with Anne-Marie Miéville in some small village called Rolle outside Genève. In terms of when its coming out, unless you live in a metropolis your best bet is at museums that show films in your city. I live in Columbus, OH (a relatively small town), and its popping up here in February at our saving-grace-museum. ...oh and i dont think he has any living family anymore (besides, a jlg-anna karina love child would be too perfect)

whatever you hear, go see it anyway--its become hip to hate godard and half the writeups you cant take seriously...

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lucky us NYC is still not america and we have the movie at film forum for weeks
now... and my dear love sara'le adler is great in it !!!
so OH people, just be carefull when you go to metal concerts !

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hey now..... its not our fault we had bible thumping country folk that we didnt account for.
or if in reference to pantera: i somehow dont feel any pity (and i know im going to hell)

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He was born in Paris in 1930, but his family moved back and forth between Switzerland and France many times. He became a Swiss citizen to avoid World War II and lived in Paris in his later years so as to get around the required military service in Switzerland. As for his family his mothers side was one of the largest protestant families in France called the Monods who didn't like the fact that his mother married a Godard who was of lower class. When his mother died the Monods didn't want much to do with them. Godard lived in Paris after this with family members and friends, but he would steel from them so everyone related to him in Paris pretty much disowned him.

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Thanks

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