Missing parts ?
I see the trailer for this movie and there appear some parts which are not presents in the movie. Somebody seen that ? I'm curious why that parts was cuted.
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I read about theatre version is more longer than public version, this is the cause, but still not understand why the make it shorter for us.
shareThe one that went round festivals is the full version whilst we here in the UK only get a 99 minute DVD and no special features. :(
Well, the retail version has a trailer but lol @ rental version - it doesn't include a trailer.
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Actually they are both the same length. Don't forget that film runs at 24fps, whereas video (and dvd) on PAL systems run at 25fps. This causes a speed-up of around 4%, which while virtually undetectable does impact the overall running time of any film. Some people claim to be able to hear the shift in pitch of peoples voices due to the PAL speed-up; personally I've never noticed it. One of the downsides can be a slight judder to action scenes, which is why Blu-Ray and HD make a lot of the 24p facility which shows the films at the correct 24fps instead of 60hz.
If you want to check whether a film is cut or not, head over to www.bbfc.co.uk, assuming you are in the UK. For the US I think it's the MPAA. They give full details of every film with a rating, details of any cuts made, what they are and why. This was passed uncut.
It does confuse a lot of people when they buy dvd's only to find the running time is different to the film. Next time you're in a shop, look at the back of something like Dark Knight on dvd, then on BluRay.. I think you'll find the difference in running time quite surprising!
Hope that helps :)
Ollie
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It was 120 minutes at festivals. So, I don't think it is do with PAL?
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At 120 minutes, definitely not due to PAL. At the most it would probably be about 105 minutes, give or take, so quite what the other 15 minutes comprised of is a mystery, unless it was a special Directors cut. If a standard theatrical version is submitted to the BBFC, then that's what they rate, regardless of any extended, unreleased versions that may exist, so it does rather sound as if the UK is (just for a change!) being short-changed..
Personally, I'd like to see it get a Blu-Ray release. Having watched it in HD on Sky, it looked absolutely stunning, particularly the flight scenes. Somehow I doubt it will ever get one, especially if the US market hasn't even bothered to pick it up for DVD release.
Such a pity, because it's a wonderful film, lively and uplifting, and genuinely moving. For some reason all I could think of when I was watching it, was the latest Indiana Jones film, and how Sky Kids beat the living daylights out of it, showing that it isn't all about big names or big budgets. It really does deserve to be seen by a broader audience, but sadly I fear that many people will never get the chance, due to the marketing. It was only on an off-chance that I saw it, as I had NO idea it had been renamed for the UK market. Normally my Sky magazine goes straight in the bin, but for some reason I read the August edition, saw Jesse James's photo, and read the synopsis from there. Obviously it became clear it was the same film that I had waited so long to see, and had set to pop up on my Digiguide software (as Fly Boys)..
It's definitely been one of my film highlights this year, especially as uplifting films go.. I just hope more people get the chance to see it. I'll certainly be buying a couple of copies, for myself and my parents, who I know will like it!
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The Flyboys theatrical cut runs 124 mins. This is the version that is going to be released in the USA. The foreign distributors felt that a shorter (toned down) cut would be more suitable for home video and TV in the other markets of the world. The 124 minute version is edgier with more language and violence. It received a PG-13 rating by the MPAA in the USA. The theatrical cut is approximately 20 minutes longer and shows the whole back story of why the airplane was empty when the boys find the bomb and come out of hiding. Hopefully, this version will be made available in all markets in the future.
shareIn that case, the UK rating is even more of a joke. The BBFC get a "cut down" version sent to them, and STILL gave it a 12 certificate (not dissimilar to PG13 I believe). Censorship REALLY aggravates me; as a parent I'm quite capable of deciding what my son can/cannot watch, and a rating on a box makes NO difference.
This is typical of the influence the BBFC have; that foreign markets, predominately the US, have to send abridged versions of films in order to secure a rating that will gain the highest audience. The moral minority are still ruining it for the rest of us.. Mary Whitehouse may be dead and buried, but her influence is still, sadly, alive and kicking!
I've bought it, but I'll be keeping an eye out for the US release, at which point, my UK dvd will end up straight on eBay.
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A chronic lack of subtitles because not enough attention was given to the balance between the noise of the cars and the feeble diction of the actors.
So much is spoken in monosyllables that its essential that we are allowed to hear the story being moved forward. A lot of the time I was reduced to reading body language or guessing what they were saying. When film producers/directors love to whack sound/music simultaneously over speech it's just unhelpful to refuse to add subtitles. Why is this? This really should be tackled before the public get to see it. In all other respects its a fine family film. This kind of attitude is not unusual. We all know what cars sound like. There's no earthly need to increase the volume of cars that much.
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What country did you view the film in? How did you view it? THE FLYBOYS (SKY KIDS - non-US title) had the sound mix completed at George Lucas' Skywalker Sound. The sound and audio mix was created by some of the best sound technicians in the world. Unfortunately, by the time the film has gone overseas to various markets and have endured a foreign language dub or mix by the distributor for that particular territory - the original mix can be lost. Often times, the local distributor for any given market will try to save money and hire a sub-par sound company to perform a new dub and encode of the audio soundtrack. Also, very often a consumer will buy a dvd and play the Dolby Digital 5.1 audio on a non-calibrated sound system. This will often result in the center channel (where the dialogue lives) being out of balance with the left and right front channels (where the music and a great deal of sound effects mostly reside). So, there are many things that can contribute to the sound mix appearing to be off when viewed by the consumer. When THE FLYBOYS is released on DVD in North America, there will be subtitles.
shareWell its now nearly 2013 and still there seems no sign of this film being offered for sale with subtitles. If there is a discrepancy over the sound relating to the arrangement mentioned by the last contributor regarding Dolby Digital 5.1 and the centre, left and right channels the simple addition of subtitles would keep everyone happy. Even so a fresh dub should not be necessary coming here to the UK. I have to specify all the films that I buy have subtitles as I am hearing handicapped.
So as far as I'm concerned, the only missing part is or are, the subtitles.
Maybe next year??
Well, Mr DarkCoastPictures, 2014 has arrived and there is still no sign of this admirable film being marketed, six years after release, with Subtitles. if you know something I don't, namely somewhere in the USA where I can get a version with subtitles I will be glad to hear of it. Don't these film people realize that approximately one in seven of the population have hearing difficulties and subtitles are greatly appreciated. Probably half of the conversations in this film are impossible to make out and I have watched it five or six times.
Question. Can someone who knows explain the film producers policy on this. Thank you.
Currently, there are two versions of this film... The TV version, roughly 90 mins, and the original roughly 120 min version. Unfortunately the only one publicly available at this time is the 90 min version.
The 90 min version circulated UK Television and was later released in the UK as DVD with the title "Sky Kids", available on amazon.co.uk. You can still purchase this version through a 3rd party on amazon.co.uk. However that version is region coded and PAL formatted at 25 frames per sec, so playing it on a DVD player outside of region 2 is not possible. There are ways around this of course, however I will not discuss how to do this here; seeing that this is illegal. Regardless, here is the link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sky-Kids-DVD-Rocco-DeVilliers/dp/B001MK9ZF8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390994524&sr=8-1&keywords=skykids
As for the 120 min version, 60 screener copies were distributed to the public last year, as part of an indiegogo campaign for an attempt into creating a TV series from the film. Campaign Here: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-flyboys-tv-series. I happen to be one of those owners of the screener copy. Each screener was released with an ID number registered to those owners, and the ID is burned into the video which makes it practically impossible for illegal copies to circulate the internet, and not without getting the original owner into serious trouble. And for good reason. Seeing that if it did circulate illegally, no one would purchase a version, aka probably never to release.
As for either of them having subtitles, neither version does regrettably.
The only way to see the original 120 min version at this point is to either know someone who owns the screener, know the producers, or hope there will be more screenings in the future. All we can do is hope that somehow funding does come through, and it can be distributed to DVD/Blu-ray/Netflix, or even theatrical release.
Hope this helped clarify the previous post.
***Everyone please note, do not ask me to distribute a copy of the 120 min version. I WILL NOT. This film deserves a chance.***