Not looking good


The film isn't finished yet, but it doesn't look good. De Niro hardly making an effort. Kathy Bates has some good scenes, but unless something miraculous happens, the film is awful.

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How can you tell? Have you seen a rough cut or something?

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Yeah. I was at a test screening. There was a constant flow of people leaving throughout the movie.

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That sucks. This is the second remake (third movie) and the first two were really bad also. Didn't see either one, but that's the talk. Must be jinxed or something.

If you can imagine it, it's not only possible, it WILL be done...

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Walkouts? That means it's a movie without car crashes, explosions or gross-out scenes. I'm now really looking forward to this film. To put it mildly, test screening audiences suck. A movie that's hugely successful at test screenings are usually those that appeal to the lowest common denominator.

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I dunno, you may be right. But it was showing at my local cinema, which normally shows art films, and doesn't really specialise in explosions etc. The minimum age of the audience was 25. Everyone I spoke to seemed reasonably intelligent.

I'm the kind of person who enjoys going to see obscure old six-hour long Russian adaptions of Dostoevsky novels, or documentaries about the Spanish Civil War. Consequently, I have seen no end of dull films. But, no question, this was the dullest.

Improvements will be made, I imagine, given serious editing. The whole narrative structure needs fixing (even at the expense of a loss of fidelity to the source). Cosmetic changes will be there: colours made vivid, a proper soundtrack added.

But I'm not sure what can be done to fix the main flaws: the lifeless scenes, full of dreary stock characterisation, banal dialogue, and unexciting performances. There are a few scenes that are not tedious (mostly involving Kathy Bates), but unless the rest are re-shot, I cannot see this film turning out to be anything other than, at best, stupidly mediocre.

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I'm not sure what you characterize as "stupidly mediocre", but remember that this is based on a 1927 novel, and a Pulitzer Prize winning one at that. In 1927, nobody really thought that a story had to be livened up with a lot of action scenes, fights, or chases.

Haven't you ever seen "Citizen Kane"? In that one, a reporter goes around interviewing people trying to find out what made one man tick. I haven't seen this latest version of "The Bridge of San Luis Rey", but I do know that the story involves an 18th-century priest searching for some cosmic or metaphysical meaning to a tragedy in Peru (the collapse of a bridge and the death of five people who were crossing it at the time). He interviews all who knew the victims.

Today's average young audiences don't give a crap about subject matter like that; that's why they were walking out. They were a test screening audience selected at random. OF COURSE they didn't like it. Every, and I mean EVERY young audience nowadays is psyched up to see either: 1) an action thriller, 2) a special effects extravaganza, 3) a sci-fi fantasy, or 4) a slapstick comedy. You can hardly expect them to sit still for a philosophical drama unless it's beefed up with extra action (as some recent Shakespeare films have been. Don't get me wrong; I love Branagh's 1996 "Hamlet", but there WAS an added attack by Fortinbras' army that wasn't there in the original; in the play, the army simply marches in.)

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It sounds like you didn't read my post. I'm not looking for action, sci-fi, slapstick. I thought it was a bad movie. It certainly wasn't 'Citizen Kane'.

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Have to agree with eyeball kicks and say that having seen it today at a press screening, there were sadly no editing changes made to improve on the complete lack of emotion so sorely necessary to breathe life into this picture.

the music is wildly over-the top distracting, it takes place in spain but only two or three of the actors are spanish--deniro is truly bad in his role---and it feels like an eternity to get to the final scene, which had most people laughing uproariously,despite the tragedy of the moment.

sometimes, despite the great source material, some things are just better off as great works of literature, not a means to a wannabe Oscar pick.

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I agree with the comments about test screenings. Most directors don't put any stock in the opinions of the audiences at these screenings. They are only important to the studios and the producers, who want EVERYONE to love the movie so it will make money, regardless of the opinions of the directors and writers. With regards to the Bridge of San Luis Rey, I too am excited about this movie. I can't stand these awful Hollywood disaster movies like The Core, which are brainless pursuits. I love to be engrossed and absorbed by a movie, and this one sonds like it will do just that. And what a sensational cast! De Niro is always good even if some of his recent films haven't been, so hopefully this one will be an improvement. Harvey Keitel and Gabriel Byrne are both excellent actors who don't just pick any project to do, and Kathy Bates is an extremely versatile actress. The whole cast is generally a guarantee of quality, and i'm sure the movie will be brilliant. Can't wait.

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I was really optimistic about this film before visiting this message board. I don't know how true to the final version the test screening will be but if people were leaving half way through, hopefully sweeping changes would have been made. I really can't imagine the film being as bad as people are making out on here. We'll just have to wait and see!

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With Bobby Deniro, harvey Keitel, F Abraham Murray, and kathy Bates, if anything, it's gonna be fun just for watching these guys acting. They kick ass.

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Like I said in another post... the director of this film's other credits don't inspire any confidence in the least. Quite a bad choice. And though I love the actors, lately they've showed that if they're not given good directing they're not really delivering as they should. Pity.

They call me MISTER Jinx

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Well if the director's past movies ALL have really bad ratings then chances are she's not a good director. What has my knowledge on directing got to do with anything? For your info I have studied film at Uni and I do direct the odd documentary but that's beside the point. A bad director usually screws up the potential for what could be good... and let's admit that lately De Niro (who's my favourite actor) has been far from brilliant. Of course we have to wait to see the move before we judge it. Here we are only discussing it's POTENTIAL! I think my question of whether this director was the right one for the job is rather legitimate. If it turns out to be bad... well thena great chance for a great movie would have been lost. And that would be a pity.

They call me MISTER Jinx

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