Abolishionist Congress? So Congress was filled with abolishionists that forced Lincoln to write the Gettysburg Address? Gee, I didn't know that little bit about history. Sir, you do realize that Lincoln was against slavery even before becoming President, don't you?
President Bush didn't lie to get us into Iraq, as one poster claimed. Whether you think it was a good idea or not isn't the point. You can't throw out accusations that have no basis in fact, whether you like the President or not. He saw a lot of info that pointed to WMD and he knew the history the U.S. and the U.N. had with Saddam's dishonesty. If Saddam had just allowed the inspectors to do their job over the years, Bush might not have felt the need to confront him as he did. After 9/11, the President felt that the time for negotiating and waiting had long past. There no reason to lie about it, and no evidence to prove he did. This accusation has been directed at him for a long time now without anything to back it up, and I think it's time to stop with this kind of rhetoric.
I haven't seen "DC 9/11," but it was made at a time when Bush's approvals were still fairly high and many viewed his actions after that day to be worthy of some praise. Quoting from Michael Moore's documentary, which attempts to make his movements on the day seem malicious or uncaring, doesn't change the fact that he did a lot to change the way that intelligence agencies in this countries do their business now. Instead of guarding their information secretly, the agencies are now able and required to share vital findings that could be helpful in preventing another 9/11. Perhaps this will be one of the lasting acheivements of the administration.
President Bush won't go down as the greatest President, because his second term has degenerated into a series of "gotcha" games played with Congress, and because not enough of importance was done. This isn't to say that he hasn't had some shining moments, including his Supreme Court nominations of John Roberts and Sam Alito and wisely using his veto power on occassion. But his second term will likely be seen as a disappointment, as his efforts to reform Social Security and immigration reform have failed to yield any success. And the Iraq Conflict has yet to improve in a dramatic fashion. Still, the movie discussed in these threads was made before all of this. President Bush's first term was largely a brilliant success, with Congress passing many important bills and with his leadership being at its strongest peak by the time his re-election took place in 2004. Many will remember him standing on the rumble of the WTC exclaiming that our enemies "will hear from us soon." And many will recall his spirited campaign to wage war against Terrorism and Religious Fanatism in the Middle East.
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bobbo1701
16 years ago
I don't know why I'm replying to this almost two years after it was posted. I guess just to offer the value of hindsight on a few things.
"President Bush didn't lie to get us into Iraq, as one poster claimed. Whether you think it was a good idea or not isn't the point. You can't throw out accusations that have no basis in fact, whether you like the President or not. He saw a lot of info that pointed to WMD and he knew the history the U.S. and the U.N. had with Saddam's dishonesty."
This is the same intel that Clinton saw during his eight years. It has been proved that someone (re: Bush) did say to find some reason to pin 9-11 on Iraq in some way.
"President Bush won't go down as the greatest President, because his second term has degenerated into a series of "gotcha" games played with Congress, and because not enough of importance was done."
Go take a look at Bush Year One before 9-11.
"This isn't to say that he hasn't had some shining moments, including his Supreme Court nominations of John Roberts and Sam Alito"
I don't know how shining these guys are considering that their nominations hinged on, respectively, the withdrawal of Bush's first unqualified nominee and the death of one of the greatest Supreme Court justices in recent history.
"and wisely using his veto power on occassion."
I don't know how wise it is to veto something based entirely on one's religion and not on scientific fact.
"President Bush's first term was largely a brilliant success, with Congress passing many important bills and with his leadership being at its strongest peak by the time his re-election took place in 2004."
All I can say to this is 'Patriot Act.'
"Many will remember him standing on the rumble of the WTC exclaiming that our enemies "will hear from us soon."
And finally, I just need to point out if you go to the footage from just before that moment and turn up the volume a bit, you'll hear someone saying that he couldn't hear Bush. It was a politically convenient coincidence. It was a forced hand off.
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