I hate this movie---and firefighters

Obviously most of you don't know actual firefighters. Most of the firefighters i know, which is a lot, as i am one, aren't teh glory seeking, thrill seeking, hormone driven frat boys you talk of. Those are the types of fire fighters that get people killed.

Most firefighters, are serious professionals, dedicated to learning their job, and doing the best they can to better the communities they live in.

Also, how else is one supposed to ventilate the roof? We have to go up there. Heat, smoke, and toxic gases build up ina fire. With temperatures at the ceiling level being often times over 1300 degrees fahrenheit. Chest level is over 600 degrees, and the floor, is a cool 350 degrees. Most gear is only rated to 400-450 degrees at teh most, and for only 12 or so minutes. By venting, we reduce the heat int he room, let smoke out, release toxic gases to disperse HARMLESSLY into the air, and improve visibility for the brothers and sisters inside. It's a dangerous job, yes. Possibly the most dangerous in firefighting. But it has to be done to save the building and people.

And whether or not you hate firefighters is your business. Like was said before, we'll still be there if you call, and mostly don't expect your thanks. Most people just yell at us for cutting a hole in their roof when their house is on fire, or blocking their driveway with our truck, while there is a bedroom full of kids int he house thats bruning across the street we're trying to reach.

People are entitled to be arrogant in response when it's they who have been undervalued first.






I never did one thing right in my life, you know that? Not one. That takes skill.

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First of all, don't call me, "dude." I'm a woman. And, as a rule, women don't respond well to being called, "dude."

Second of all, you're just as ignorant as the original poster. I don't respond well to trolls who make ignorant and/or disrespectful remarks about the men and women who put their lives on the line to save and protect others.

Then again, what can be expected from someone with the ID, "dragonfeces"?

"How come there are no award ceremonies for the 8-6 factory worker or plumber that breathes toxic fumes all day for minimum wage to support his family."

Because society (as a whole) chooses to forget about them. What has anyone here done in recognition for that 8-6 factory worker recently? Have you done any thing? While at the checkout line of the grocery store or at a gas station, have you taken just 5 seconds to tell that cashier they are doing a good job? I haven't. I'm guilty. How many here are?

But an important thing to consider is that; How many of us have been that 9-5, minumum wage factory worker? I have been there. I've done my time behind the cash register or stocking shelves and I haven't forgotten where I've came from either. I know what it feels like to have someone looking down their noses at you.

But I don't understand discontent towards firefighters for recognition and awards. You say you were in the military. I respect you for fighting for my country, and I would never call you a glory-seeking gorilla because you recieved a medal for your services. There are plenty of awards, medals and recognition given out to soldiers and many of them are the same sort of glory seeking heros you are talking about, but I wouldn't go over to the "Saving Private Ryan" board to say I hate this movie---and veterans.

Either way, whether it's a firefighter or a soldier bragging about his duty, you should understand that most often, it is a vent for all the crap that's built up in their head over time from that duty. Secondly, we know that no one is getting rich off of being a soldier or a firefighter (often it's volunteer duty) and recognition is societys way of saying thanks for your services. I hardly think that there is an abundance of people who's life has been touched or saved by a fire fighter, soldier or cashier for that matter who is not willing to give recognition. No one here has the right to take that away from the person providing the service or the person giving the recognition.

All so think about what is really so wrong with firefighters bragging about risking their lives with dangerous tasks if all they are asking for is the right to do this (without getting chastised) for carrying out these tasks. Trust me they don't do it for the money.

Anyway...

The thing I wonder about is what has manifested itself into such a display of discontent and anger about the whole situation?

Your not going to change the world El_repetto.

All I can suggest is to let it go. Recognition has been a part of society since the begining of time, but then again so has discontent.


...There is no spoon! (The Matrix)

@ el_repetto and his comment about being a vet

Why don't you just shut your mouth instead of showing everyone how much of an arrogant, classless pig you are. I don't buy a word.

I have been reading your posts and you keep making statements badmouthing firefighters but all you are really doing is speaking out of your ass. It doesn't matter if you know firefighters. It doesn't matter if you have talked to them. It doesn't matter if you have heard their stories. It doesn't matter if you have family members that are or were firefighters. Until you have actually done the job you don't know.

You don't know whether or not if you were a firefighter you would develop the same so-called attitude you so clearly despise.

You are badmouthing a profession in which you have no personal experience. I don't either. But to call firefighters, self-important retards is only speaking out of your ass.

I would actually like to see you do the job and when your attitude changes into what you perceive a firefighter to be, would you still be calling them self important retards. Or would you be perceiving them as something different.

People tend to badmouth professions or experiences or situations saying this is how I would act in this situation, behave, perceive and whatnot until they have actually experienced what they are claiming.

The truth of the matter is people say what they what they would like to think they would do, not necessarily what they would actually do. You may think firefighters are self important retards as having never been one. But if you did become one, you have no idea if that opinion of them would change.

Of course EVERY firefighter isn't an arrogant jerk, just like every heavy metal singer isn't a womanizing alcoholic. But I think it's safe to say that some jobs attract people that are a certain way and, because of that, the mindset and manner are encouraged to attract more.

I agree the pay is not good, that's why the promise of glory must be exploited to draw interest. The same is true with the military. You see these commercials of a burn-out kid fighting a dragon with Excalibur and then at the end realize it's an Army commercial. They portray it as heroism and glory, then you get there and you get your arm blown off by a 10 year old because the standard issue crap truck has no armor.

I'm just fed up with the self-righteous and there seems to be a lot of that as of late. With the emphasis on RIGHT. As in right wing. As in religious right. As in "might makes right" And firefighters, more often than not, seem to fall into that category.

believe me, I am a firefightter, I got quite a rep on this job. And number two, if you can't spell my name right don't spell it at all *beep* And no, it is not ignorance. And I'm VERY male. (I put ladder 49 to shame if you all know what I mean) What exactly is it that you have against firefighters other than the fact that you think we're ignorant? Did your wife/girlfriend leave you for a firefighter? Did an entire engine/ladder/rescue company gang-bang your wife/girlfriend, or did some one in your family die because the crew couldn't get in fast enough because bastards like you were driving slowly and slowing down apparatus?

your a *beep* have a bad day.

I still want to know if you are taking any prescription medication

I aint hear no fat lady...forget the fat lady you’re obsess with the fat lady, drive us out of here

El repetto, if anyone here is an arrogant *beep* its you. To have so many relatives as firefighters, you sure do hate them. Not one cocky firefighter in this world will alter my opinion. Their duty is just as daring as yours in Iraq. Every experience is different, and generalizations are for weak people. It sucks we don't live in a perfect world, and have to deal with people like you on a constant basis. You know, the ignorant type that never give in. The ones who judge an entire group by one person. You are truly one hell of a dumbass, and there's nothing wrong with that. When you're done with your service, which I commend you for, please continue your job in the checkout lanes.

i have NO IDEA where the first poster is getting all this crap from. fire fighter AND police risk their lives everyday to protect anyone! i bet if that person was dying in a burning house and the only person around was the firefighter they would be begging to be saved!!

~AnImAlSrOcK~

There is inaluable logic in that sentence Capman1, I can see why you're a good paramedic. But you also have to understand that some people have different ways of handling things. I mean, I am also a Pvt. Security Guard- for concerts, things like that- therefore, I have a different way of controlling situations. I also have something against my skills as a firefighter being questioned. But you do speak with infaluable logic, it does make sense, but you also must understand that we all handle things differently, as a security guard/firefighter. I have to be compassionate, be able to take control of a situation in anyway possible, as well as deal with those who are arrogant, and ignorant.


There is no note of sarcasm in here because I do think that what you said makes incredible sense.

what the hell kind of sense does that make?