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Backdraft or Ladder49?


I have seen both movies and I thought they were both good,but I was a bit surprise that the Backdraft movie did not have the firefighters wear masks in the resure scene. How come??

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Backdraft didn't go for the amount of realism that Ladder49 was trying for. Also, Kurt Russell's character in the movie portrayed an old fashioned type of smoke-eater who never liked wearing his mask.

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I always thought that was an unwise decision, in terms of character development.

It made Russell's character look like a fool who had no regard for safety. It wasn't even realistic, as his character was supposed to have had some anywhere from ten to fifteen years of service in the department. Thus, he would have joined the department long after air masks were made part of mandatory training and regulation. Thus, he would never have served at a time when masks weren't standard.

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Not true. Let's say he's got ten years in in the early nineties. He'd have joined early eighties, which makes sense movie wise, if not even earlier. I'm assuing that Stephen joined as soon as he was 18, or even 21, which means he was in in the mid to late 70's. I know from my dad, and others from that time, that even though masks were around, and training on them was mandatory, use of them was sporadic at best. Stephen is meant to be sort of the last of a generation of firefighters, the "real smoke eaters" of yesteryear.

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too bad neither of these movies were very good, firefighters deserve better. they should make a movie of rescue me, now that would be great.

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No question Backdraft

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Ladder 49 was far better. I know Backdraft didn't really intend on making it that realistic about Kurt Russell wearing breathing apparatus but when William Baldwins character shows up at the station in ordinary clothes and just jumps on the engine any time he pleases is just a joke.

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For a realistic account of a firefighter's life (by Hollywood standards) Ladder 49 would win, but as a movie, Backdraft is the one. Backdraft has more engaging characters, better actors and a crime plot backdrop that adds to the entertainment. That likely means that they both accomplished what they set out to do, but I'll be watching Ladder 49 as an orientation video if I ever decide to become a firefighter, and Backdraft when I want an enjoyable bit of cinema.

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Back Draft, MO

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I thought Ladder 49 was much better. There was no real plot line; it was just a movie about the daily lives of firefighters and what they and their families go through with them having such a dangerous job. Backdraft was just okay to me; I can't stand ANY Baldwin so the one who was in there (Steven??) just got on my nerves.

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Ladder 49 more realistic to me

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While neither was "realistic" at least Backdraft had better acting and was more believable and had better acting! Parts of this movie it's obvious they were ripping off Backdraft instead of actually trying.

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you gotta respect my opinion so I don't care about your statement

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haha well said.

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Parts of this movie it's obvious they were ripping off Backdraft instead of actually trying.

Because they used fire in both movies?




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Also, the main character dies, one of the firefighters gets badly burned in both movies though I think it was steam that burned a firefighter in ladder 49. I personally prefer Backdraft but Towering Inferno is my favorite fire movie.

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Seen them both. Backdraft was better, no question.

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Backdraft and Ladder 49 were written in different era's of firefighting. Backdraft was written when firefighters were still wearing their "raincoats" and knee cut boots. A lot of guys, especially the older ones, didn't wear their masks because the safety information wasn't as well known as it is today. Back then they didn't know the smoke caused as many types of cancer as we know today. In the opening fire scene, all the guys except for Russell's character were wearing masks. This was representative of the old smokeater generation.Ladder 49 obviously was written after the bunker suits were mandated and SCBA is beaten into every recruits head.

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"Backdraft" was not a realistic movie about the lives of firefighters. "Backdraft," if you remember correctly, had an underlying plot: arson.

"Ladder 49" is MUCH more realistic (from someone growing up in a firefighter household in a firefighting town) than "Backdraft" though does have its technical flaws (as most movies do).





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Backdraft had them going into a room and sensing that they were about to suddenly have fire appear all around them... out of nothing. It also had the scene with the 2 brothers running up the stairs, the older charging into a fully involved room which then flashed knocking back the younger borther who hadn't even entered the room. After several seconds of "suspense" the older brother comes running out with a child on one arm... alive. Even with full turnout gear worn correctly, including SCBA noone would have survived that. I refer back to previous posts about the rather cavalier attitude about protective gear. Then there was the plot. This is typical Hollywood mentality. There has to be a criminal conspiracy for it to be interesting.

Ladder 49 was MUCH better!

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You guys are so full of yourselfs, ladder 49 was made in 2004 backdraft in 1990, see a difference?

Backdraft is a far far far more realistic movie, ladder49 is just your typical hollywood garbage.

SCBA? Hello a lot of firefighters didn't care about having full gear in 1990. My brother is a firefighter and his team salutes backdraft as being the best "hollywood" version of a firefighter and ladder49 as the worst.

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Last I heard Chicago was the last major department wearing the tall boots rather than the standard turn out gear most folks are familiar with. Anyone know if this is still true?

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