Syrup? - (Spoiler)


A 4 year kid killing himself with cough syrup?
It just sounds very improbable to me.

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ya but it kinda shows how *beep* up he was.

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He didn't kill himself intentionally. A four year old wouldn't even know that cough syrup would kill him. I think what they were getting at was that the kid couldn't sleep because his mom wasn't home and thought that taking more would help him calm down.

However, I really don't see how cough syrup could kill someone. It would have to be a really big bottle, because most bottles don't even have enough syrup in them for more than about four doses.

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I'm no psychologist, but a she made it sound like he did it on purpose. He is FOUR, I've never heard of a four year old commiting suicide. I also knew she did from the start since she took so long to tell Jackson the kid was in the car. I really thought the movie was horrible, had potential, but it was too obvious. I only watched to the end to see how it actually happened. She got off easy with the plea of Neglegent Homicide. I would have gone for the harshest sentence. But then again, its a movie.

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She was kind of messed up in the head. In her view, he did it to "make her sorry". I think he just did it cuz he KNOWS he's only supposed to take like a tspn.

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It wasn't even Neglegent Homicide. She got Criminal Neglegence, which is a lesser charge.

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How did the four year old get the bottle of cough syrup open?

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I know my four year old could get a cap off a medicine bottle. I think most four y/o's can, which is why you don't leave medicine w/i their reach. Child safe caps are merely a deterant...

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Let's don't forget that all we're getting is HER version of what happened; and her version shifted and changed and was filtered through her perceptions...

Assuming that the broad outline of what she said was true, I think the plausible version is that she gave him his dose, went downstairs and he wouldn't sleep.

She gave him another dose, he wouldn't sleep.

In her confused and unstable condition -whether mental or drug-induced (remember she was said to have been an addict, and we only have her word that she's been "clean')- she probably forgot that she already gave him two doses and then dosed him again and again.



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As someone mentioned before, no one killed the kid, she didn't dose him again and again. She said in the interview room that she told him it was night vitamin; so he probably thought he would drink it so he could go to sleep or something... since wasn't she having a fight w/ her lover, and he whenever she checked on the kid; he wasn't sleeping?
Being killed by a bottle of cough syrup; yeah that's highly questionable.

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Your post is very confusing. Were you saying that the kid DID die from drinking the medicine or not?

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Yes I'm saying he did die from it. But that he didn't do it to commit suicide/hurt her, he did it because he thought it was good for him.

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Well then the question still remains:

HOW DID THE FOUR YEAR OLD GET THE BOTTLE OF SYRUP OPEN?!

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They didn't mention whether the cap had one of those child safety things on it. So I guess it's up to our imaginations.

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it is very plausible that the kid died from an overdose on cough syrup... to those of you who were skeptical about it before. Not all cough syrup is nasty tasting, and a lot of teenagers take it to get a "high" thats why you have to be 18 or over to buy most types now. Most cough syrup bottles have more than just 4 doses, since youre only supposed to take two tsps at a time that would leave quite a bit for a person to overdose,maybe not a full grown adult.. not enough to kill them anyway but think of how small a four year old boy is. As for getting the bottle open...it just depends on the child safety device if there even was one.

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Finally, a post I agree with... Wave surfer 87. You got it right, imo. The kid could definitely od & die from cough syrup. A woman was convicted for killing her child by giving her Benadryl (generic) to make her "drowsy". It happens. Any medication can have adverse effects; Including death. I don't know why people find this so hard to believe. And why would it be said that bottles only contain -4- doses??? Are you kidding? Do you people not have kids? Or just never get sick? You might not have liked the movie, but the argument about the cough syrup is w/o merit. It could kill a small child.
The bottle open... She (mom) might've left it open. Who knows.



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its definately possible to open a child proof bottle when your a child. not every kid can do it but theres tons ive seen that can. plus it depends which child safety was on because some are easier to open then others.

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its definately possible to open a child proof bottle when your a child. not every kid can do it but theres tons ive seen that can. plus it depends which child safety was on because some are easier to open then others.

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I could open a child safety bottle when I was younger too. But not at FOUR YEARS OLD.

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I could do it @ four, and yeah I know someone who almost had Heart Failure from Cough Syrup and that was an adult who had developed resistance to it. It could kill a four year old.

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Everyone is assuming that she use Children cough syrup. But she just said cough syrup that likely put him to sleep. I also believe that when he refuse to go to sleep, she might have given him the fatal dose By accident.






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Hell, even besides the probability of a child purposefully committing suicide by drinking a whole bottle of cough syrup, was it really plausible that the mother would have been charged for it, even on the basis of criminal negligence? According to her confession, she didn't even leave the house. She merely left his room for a while. It's criminal negligence for a parent to ever let their child get out of their sight, even in the sense of simply leaving a room?

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i was going to netflix this movie but after reading the reviews here and seeing what bascially happens in the movie by reading this thread, im glad i didnt. sounds weak.

anyway, even thuogh i havent (and wont) see this movie, a child can certainly die from drinking cough syrup. since she was giving it to him and telling him its "night vitamin" (someone posted this term earlier in this thread) its safe to say it had some alcohol in it. if the child took the entire bottle or atleast 80% of it, his body could not handle that amount of alcohol and would slow his heart rate down and eventually succom to cardiac arrest. im not sure what they said the cause was in the movie but what i just said has happened in reality.

how did he open the bottle? she (the mother) never locked the cap as it should...

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I know this is a REALLY old thread, but I just read this and thought I'd reply to it. When I was young (maybe about 4.. can't remember exactly) I had an extremely similar situation happen to me. I was sick with some sort of cold and my mom had given me some cough medicine to help my symptoms. She left the bottle up on a dresser in my room and tucked me in for the night.

When she left and I was still coughing, I decided to be a "big girl" and take some more to stop my cough. I pulled up a chair in front of the dresser, opened the bottle (idk if it was slightly off or if it didn't have child-lock on it) and drank a large quantity. Somehow (I was really young and can't remember the details) my parents quickly found out and rushed me to the hospital where I had to get my stomach pumped.

After hearing about this movie I freaked out because I had always told my friends this story and they always laughed about how I was such a strange child who thought I could cure myself by chugging medicine. It was really weird to now discover this in a film plot! So I guess I am proof that this storyline could be realistic, and a child could accidentally poison him/herself with cough syrup without meaning to.

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*Not all cough syrup bottles have child proof caps
* She was probably giving him adult cough medicine which is a higher dosage
* You can definately OD on cough syrup if you're a small small child, that's why they have dosage limits on the bottle.
* He might not have died from OD, he could have asphyxiated on his vomit (Brenda said when she went to check on him his bed was covered in puke)

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Well I know adults have died with cough syrup with alcohol. codeine is a main ingredient in the syrups I'm talking about. I got her story at the end was the truth. Her saying how her son was telling her "you'll be sorry" was the guilt. What she was alluding to I think in the interview was her son was used to taking the cough syrup before bed and it became a 'ritual' and the reason her son took the syrup in the first place that night.

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