mason george


did anyone else notice the mason/george thing in the first few episodes ?

was that going to be a plot line if fuller hadn't left?

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nope.

I doubt it.

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I don't see it either.

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@fairy_godmother
For the first few episodes, I thought they would date too.

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I thought so, at the start of the first season. But then Betty/Bryan Fuller left and someone decided Mason should be infatuated with Daisy, then become so pathetic George would never have him. At least that's how I saw it...

Stop! Manners time.

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Same as above. I got that vibe in the beginning, then it seemed they were pushing for Daisy and Mason. Still, the last couple episodes of the series seem to put that to rest and George and Mason share some really beautiful moments together. Not necessarily romantic, but loving nonetheless.

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I thought they had more of a brother/sister relationship. I never felt like they had any romantic chemistry

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Yes, I agree. Very much a sibling thing, though George was primarly a sibling with everyone but Rube. Note Mason had no interest in Roxy either. Ironic, since dating another reaper would have technically been the only real choice at a relationship since reapers don't change physical appearance in their post-mortem existence. Certainly within 10 years there would be a very noticeable change.

An added complication, of course, would be someone who died at a younger age, but at an earlier time, would technically have existed longer (ante + post mortem added) than a reaper who died at an older age but at a more recent date. Witness Daisy and Mason; Daisy died in 1938 while Mason was born in 1939. They were both in their late 20's when they died.

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Mason and George settled into a sibling relationship. Wherever the George character was heading the last episode (last few actually) made a point of showing her dominating both Daisy and Mason and standing up to Roxy.

Mason couldn't resist Betty and when she dropped out he chased Daisy. By the last episode he caught her but it's not clear he understood that or even that Daisy was aware.

Based on birth dates and 2004 the total ages of the various characters:

Daisy was 89 years old.

Betty (2003) was 104.

Roxy 44

Mason 65

Rube 128

Roxy was the youngest in total years. She also died at age 22, the youngest except for George. Daisy died when she was 24 and Mason when he was 27. Obviously Jasmine Guy was not 22 but something like 41 in the pilot. Perhaps Fuller couldn't pass up getting Guy for the part and didn't bother to change the character's age.

Rube died when he was 51. By the time George showed up he was 127 years old inhabiting the body of a 51 year old. Mandy seemed convincing as a 120 something old but who knows. I haven't met too many people (zero and counting) who can remember their names at a over a 120 years old.

How would an 89 year old woman behave in a 24 year old Daisy Adair body? What was tragic about Daisy was reaching such an age and being so clueless. Godchaux and Masius and other writers did that wonderful episode (111) when Daisy crashed head long into some self awareness when she reaped the painter.

At around minute 32 this dialogue captures her awakening.

(32) (Daisy and Chris are in her new house - Mason’s old one - with her stuff and the painting. This is the big scene for the Daisy character. Chris has a message (from the PTB on the other side?) for her.)

Chris: So this is your new house.
Daisy: Yeees, and I’ve had a very long day.
And I really need to get my beauty sleep.
C: What are you doing with that? (pointing at Daisy’s new painting)
D: (Daisy smiles and shakes her head)
C: You have no idea how to hang a painting do you?
You don’t know where the light is.
D: (Big sigh)
C: Daisy, do you know how long I worked on that painting?
Two years.
(Daisy is now looking at Chris intently - for the first time an open receptive expression)
The day I finished it I sat down and cried, because I realized I’d finally made something outside of myself.
You wouldn’t know anything about that would you?
(Daisy is listening closely)
This is the room. This is the best room. That window faces south. It catches the light.
If you don’t mind my saying - you could use more light.
D: Well that’s just crazy. Look at me. I’m as light as a feather.
(Daisy tries to evade with a joke and her face projects ..........?)
C: (But Chris is not deflected in the least)
Light as a feather.
No.
There’s more.
But, you have to try harder.
(Daisy gets this odd half vacant half puzzled look - did she get it?)

(Chris nods a bit)
(Daisy gets an ‘I got it look’ and Chris turns and walks away and outside. Daisy tries it blow it off. Outside.)
D: Wait, where are you going?
I thought you didn’t want me to have it.

C: (Chris stops walking away and turns to face her and smiles)
I just figured it out.
I painted it for you.

(Chris then leaves into his lights.)



And I wonder how George would behave looking like an 18 year when she's Rube's age.

G&M by the last episode of the second season show us a George that has come a very long way from that lost girl in the pilot who didn't fit well into life or her death. By the last episode she was the one in charge of her much older siblings. Remember this scene in the beginning- minute 2.

As George reaches the reaper booth, we hear Daisy and Mason in a heated discussion. George in the last episode won the issue as to whether Mason could live with her and Daisy. This is the final episode, and this opening booth scene is to tell us how mature George has become in just over her year as a reaper relative to these two much older reapers. It’s George who takes charge here and settles the issue.

Daisy: I’m not a prude. It’s just unseemly.
Mason: A man’s home is a man’s castle. In his castle he should be allowed to swing free.
D: There are boundaries. Mason, other people can see them. Why can’t you?
M: Nude is natural. Nude is now.
George: I’m about to eat breakfast, so can we ease up on the naked talk. Please? Thank you.
D: You didn’t have to see it, Georgia. It’s not how I wanted to start my day.
G: Well you screaming at 6:53 in the morning was not how I wanted to start mine.
M: By the way you’re not the first woman who has shrieked at the sight of the Loch Ness monster rising to the surface.
D: Don’t flatter yourself.
G: OK folks. Two rules….starting as of right now. One .. breakfast at our house is no longer clothing optional.
D: All meals.
G: All meals.
M: Fine.
G: Two…..and most important ya touch my f&^king pop tarts again and your monster is going to get it in his sleep.

M: Fine. And FYI I like strawberry frosted the best.
G: In addition to eating my groceries you might want to start providing them. You need to earn your keep.
M: I…I …Ah.. All right….I’ll do some chores.
G: OK, fine do some chores. Do my f&^king laundry.


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Although they all maintain their same mortal death age, their tastes in clothes, technology, and contemporary pop culture ajusts in real time, although it appears their own maturity doesn't. For instance, Mason has been a functioning drug/alcohol abuser for over 35 years since his death. As you mention, he would be 65 now but still acts like a 20 year old jerk.

That does lead to an interesting observation: They appear to be as mature as their age of death, as opposed to gaining decades or, in some cases, a century of cumulative "experience" and relative maturity gain. In other words, Rube was 51 when he died, and though he was a murdering bank robber, he had his own maturity which has carried him for several decades. Not so Mason, Daisy, or Betty, though Roxy appeared to be wiser for her 22 years of age (I think they should have had her death differently and more age-appropriate to Jasmine Guy's actual age).

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Yes, I did. They decided to have Mason fall for Daisy instead.

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