"your intellectual elitism is shocking and I think that the director herself would find it actually rather offensive."
And what makes you an authority to speak for Breillat making assumptions what she would find offensive or not?
I was responding to those who took the movie literally and bashed it out of ignorance as porn hence my attempt to clarify Breillat’s intentions based on her own comments. If you embrace the movie on your own terms my posts are not directed at you but since you responded let’s “deconstruct” your answer.
What you erroneously call "intellectual elitism" is merely curiosity in what an artist has in mind as well as interest in various subjects from practical knowledge of how to fold a shirt in 5 sec to history, arts, philosophy etc. Nothing prevents people from watching director’s commentary to get an idea what her message is. The rejection stemming from close mindedness is the target of my post.
Nowhere did I say that the intellectuals are the only ones able to appreciate Breillat; I said that the movie
most likely appeals to those who are able to connect the dots, think and enjoy the experience. One doesn’t need to be a classical dancer to appreciate a ballet performance however, those who are can connect with the dancers and the art through their personal learning experience.
It’s just as easy to accuse postmodern writers and those who parrot them of pseudo-intellectual elitism. They create a Masonic-like secret society with their absurd terminology that makes Lem sound like a realist. Postmodernists use this language to cover up the fact that they have little new to say especially to science beyond globally denigrating all of it as obviously not "objective," not free of all sorts of assumptions. This insight should lead to more than the current arbitrariness in which many scientists these days respond to questions: "From post-modernism we know that there are no facts, so I can really say anything I want.”
"Your seeming attachment to the differentiation between "low art" (the very genre of style that is being drawn off of in this film) and "high art" (what you are rightfully defending here) is a classist and to be honest, shockingly out of date principle."
"Shocking" seems to be your favorite melodramatic lexical attachment making up for your inability to add anything of substance to the discussion about the movie itself besides regurgitating a bunch of wikipedia definitions: low art, high art, elitist, classist, postmodernist. Your post is suffering from -ist infection.
You grab a piece of my post like a drowning man clutches a piece of flotsam yet it has nothing to do with being classist but with the source of Breillat’s inspiration deriving from religious iconography (Caravaggio) to address the forbidden aspects of religion (namely Judaism) and various cross cultural (blood sharing custom), philosophical and cinematic references (Murnau). If she were inspired by Andy Warhol pop-culture works or cave art I'd have reacted the same way if people called it porn just because they didn’t recognize the origin of those inspirations so spare me this silly postmodernist neo-Marxist phraseology.
What Breillat does is reflective art not entertainment art or porn and that’s the core of my message. Her work is postmodernist in many aspects but she also goes beyond, to a transcendence of meaning as a new foundation by merging philosophical concepts to find her own artistic way of expressing a keen interest in a meaningful human life. The central message in this movie is humanist (neo postmodern humanist if you will) --- reconciliation of two species through love facilitated by human sexuality as a language---therefore such an abstract philosophical theorem had to be visualized by a mix of both verbal and body language.
Since there is no romance she couldn’t write a script with things like “she's lying on the bed, she's spreading her legs, he's watching her and it's really, really awful.” Most scenes are mute, because all lyrical passages and dialogues had to be translated into metaphorical and metaphysical light, literally transposed into cinematic light.
"Before you claim to speak with such authority perhaps you should look into *postmodern* intellectual theory, I think you would find it interesting."
I’m interested in various philosophies not necessary in what is currently fashionable. Cultural and socio-political trends are cyclical and the end of each century oscillates towards decadence and disappointment with the previous concepts, goes to the other extreme just to be counterbalanced or balanced by constantly evolving philosophical trends. Every new interpretation automatically challenges any previous interpretation.
By using a cliché word “outdated” you not only limit yourself within particular boundaries but also outdate yourself because new or updated philosophical concepts are emerging as you are typing your post. Postmodernism is dead and already gave way to critical realism, after postmodernism, neo-postmodernism, trans-modernism and many more to come so examine your own awareness before accusing someone of being outdated.
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