Opinions on the Major!


I noticed something about the Major, and I would be interested to see what others have to say.

Throughout the entire Ghost in the Shell series, she seems to have no shame with regards to her clothing in the presence of men. I.E. hardly shrugging when Batou covers her naked body after she takes down the brain-hacked man in the original movie. Sitting in meetings amongst men wearing little more than a flesh-coloured leotard, etc.

What raises my eyebroughs is in the first Gig episode 'Decoy' before her monologue, she is sitting on the bed with her friend Kurutan drinking wine, and later after the other friend, Ran, arrives, the Major smiles sweetly at the two of them sleeping right beside each other.
Then in the Second Gig episode 'Trial' while having coffee, Ran says 'Why don't we call Kurutan and go wild like we used to!'

I'm not making any suggestions here, but I'd be interested to hear other peoples' interpretations of the relationship between Motoko and her two friends!

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I'm assuming you've seen both 1st and 2nd gig. Spoilers below in case you have not.

I think she is supposed to be bisexual? I know in the manga there is a lesbian scene or something, yet she also has a boyfriend. Throughout the anime however, we can definitely tell she has feelings for Kuze and/or Batou. I always had the impression that Motoko is unsure about her sexuality. We can see that she has strong feelings for Kuze near the end of 2nd gig. Also keep in mind that most likely (at least, I am dead sure on this 100%) she can't reproduce-----> The feelings are there, but they can't progress any further.

I'd say she has a stronger relationship with Batou compared to Kuze, and I don't think Batou can help make babies either. I think Kurutan and Ran are just that, girlfriends. Although it is implied that there might be "something going on" I think they are just people she tries to hang out with. Seeing as the Major has virtually no free time, I don't think she can really become attached to anyone or have any sort of deep relationship.

About the whole clothing issue, I think the Major sees her body as an object and therefore has no care in what way she dresses. Or it's just selfish fan-service. It's more likely fan-service I think.


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Thanks for the reply, Dragon Dance.

Yes I have seen both Gigs and S.S.S. numerous time each, and fully agree with your views on the relationships with Batou and Kuze, and the question that reproduction is a complete non-issue given her and most of Section 9s Cyborg state (And Togusa being a family man already!). Batou shares her life as a law enforcer and so has that in common with her, and would probably take things beyond their situation if not for her apparent obvious desire to avoid that level of companionship. The best examples of this are his reaction to her 'Would you jump in and save me' speach on the boat in the original movie, and his desperation to dig her out of the rubble toward the end of the second Gig.

But even though Kuze played a large part in bringing about the dangers faced in the second Gig, he was trying to do the right thing, but was dragged into the wrong actions. Even though it is never actually said, it is strongly suggested, and she obviously realises that he is the childhood friend who folded the origami Cranes, and so given that long lost connection, she in the end was unable to see him as a foe. More a lost soul she wanted to guide.

Every time I see the scenes with Kurutan and Ran, it just brings a smile to my face wondering what goes on behind closed doors and hoped to start a light hearted thread. As fantastic as it is that these series' can instigate such deep intelligent discussions, I was looking to fan the flames of the Japanese love of Fan-service.

I love anime! Just try and get such deep discussions about the Simpsons!!!!!!

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You ever read the manga? Saying that there might be a lesbian scene is like saying there might be iron in the Eiffel Tower! the Major is a very interesting exercise in sexuality, since she doesn't have reproductive organs (not even prosthetic ones), but she is definitely not asexual . The scene where she undresses in front of the 13 year old boy to mess with him is also fun. They didn't dwell into her sexuality too much, mainly because the Major likes to keep it separate from her work, and it didn't have a place in the anime, but her character definitely has a very sexy side, and is very aware of it.

And yes, she is completely comfortable naked in front of men. She probably does it just to see their reaction. Also there is fan-service involved.

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I think that all of you are partially right. Clearly there is some fan-service involved, and the Major is definitely a "very interesting exercise in sexuality," but I think it goes deeper as well.

Notice how there is a very clear division between "The Major" and "Motoko." The Major is all business, she is interested in results and is very dedicated to her work. I think that this part of her personality is attracted to Batou, Aramaki, and men in general. After all, her only real comrades are men. They can be counted on to get results and follow her without question. The men in her life (even her enemies) also respect her greatly. Motoko, on the other hand, is very different. We don't see very much of her in this role, but we see enough to guess. This part of her personality is interested in cutting loose and forgetting all about work. I think that her girlfriends help her to do this. During the scene in Decoy, when she is hanging out with Kurutan and Ran, notice how her girlfriends get upset when she starts working, and they eventually lose interest and fall asleep. They couldn't care less about her work, and I think that Motoko wants it that way. She does kind of chuckle when she realizes that they are sleeping. It is the same way when she is getting her new body later in the series. Her friend is blissfully ignorant that Motoko is fighting for her life until the nurse's body goes crashing through the glass right in front of her.

So I think that the real difference between her attraction to men and women comes from the sharp division she has created between her work life and her home life. It's hard to see because she is not really sexual in any normal way. She has never had physical sex in her life. Instead she gets emotional love and respect from her working relationships and a weird form of physical pleasure from her girlfriends (the manga goes into much more detail on this).

Another interesting aspect of all this is her relationship with Prime Minister Kayabuki in the 2nd GIG. It is clear in the beginning of the series that the Major does not respect the Prime Minister, and sees her as being ruled by female emotions. But she has a short conversation with Aramaki about her, where he explains why he respects Kayabuki. From that moment on, she takes a different attitude with the Prime Minister. I think that this says something interesting about the Major and her views on gender and sexuality.

You know, this could have been a really stupid topic, but the OP made a great argument and it helped me to think about all this more intently and see that there was a deeper meaning to it. Cheers.

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What can i say, she is lovely in the series just like in the manga but butt-ugly in the movie.

She is also a kickass character and one of the finest and most beautiful female heroines ever.

"If this is torture, chain me to the wall"-Oliver and Company

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The Major is a bisexual cybernetic whore for fan service purposes, and it's the worst thing Ghost In The Shell has going for it.

There is nothing left for interpretation there.

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And that's why see is a hit with the guys you know.

"What a bunch of slack jawed fags around here"-Predator.

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Popular for immature teens, not appealing to adults for a show that claims to be philosophical.

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