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Ham + Cheese Premes on TMN


Hey Guys,

For all you interested - Ham & Cheese makes its North American broadcast premiere on TMN (8pm EST on MFUN) on Feb. 5, 2006 - and plays throughout the month: Feb 5, 10, 15, 20 and 25! Hope you enjoy. WPS

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I watched this last night on The Movie Network (Feb. 5th) and found it absolutly hilarious, clever, and overall a great film. A job well done.

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Thanks Damman - that's 2 of us that weren't watching the Superbowl!!! We tried to get the Jan 31st at midnight slot but it was taken. But it's playing on every 5th day so if you've missed it - check it out. Apparently we're playing on Bravo in Canada soon also (?) Hopefully we'll find that actor/dreamer/comedy audience out there, somewhere, at some time. Thanks for everyone's feedback - good and bad - at least it provokes a response! It's nice to see a labour of love find its way out into the world. And keep the votes coming! WPS

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I just caught this for the first time on TMN Warren, and I have to say that in the past 5 days I've watched it four times.
I've made my friends, sister and cousins all watch it. It is without a doubt one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

I'm a filmmaker at Ryerson University and I'm going to assume you check out these posts all the time Warren (Hey, it's your baby, of course you do), wondering if there's any way to contact you and talk about how you made the film. I really truly loved it and it would be an awesome opportunity to actually talk to the person that made it.

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Thanks for spreading the word jpopalis! I also attended Rye Film (failed. twice.) --- check your PM inbox and apologize to your family for me. Unless they liked it. In that case - talk me up. WPS

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Brilliant, just brilliant! I described a scene to some of my friends (the audition scene for the smoking patch and the Pepsi), each of them went home, watched it, and absolutly loved it!

I, too, wish to be a film-maker some day and am seriously considering Ryerson. To Mr. Sonoda: As an established film-maker, what is your opinion on specialty film schools (ex. Vancouver Film School, Los Angeles Film School, etc.)? Would you consider such programs as sufficient post-secondary education, or should they be taken in conjunction with University programs, such as those offered by Ryerson?

Thanks!

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damman, between you and jpopalis, you're going to make H&C a hit! Thanks for spreading the word, much appreciated. I was just saying to jpopalis that my favourite scenes are also the audition scenes, mostly b/c Jason and Mike wrote them with such complete authority and performed them with conviction (there's nothing stronger than an actor having truly lived a scene before doing it).

At the expense of going off tangent on this thread (but b/c I started it, I don't mind) - I will throw my 2 cents into the whole film school question (which is covered a lot on various message boards) --- although I never did get my Ryerson degree (and I've never been asked to show one either) - I think what I liked most about film school is the fraternity one acquires with other filmmakers.

I would say that, beyond the crap shoot of hoping to get some great teachers, you are going to film school primarily to meet a group of other talented young filmmakers and feed off the energy that really can exist only in such a protected environment.

Learning about equipment? I guess. Learning how to shoot a film? Sure, okay. But really, you go to meet people and interact - whether it's classmates or teachers. The classmates I went to school with were amazing filmmakers and I learned a great deal from them - and still work with many of them to this very day. I'm not familiar with the Van Film or LA Film schools - but I've heard good things about both. Ryerson was (and still is) one of THE BEST film schools in the country - and the fact that it's right downtown and in the thick of things is terrific for young filmmakers - it had a great energy (even though every 4th student film was shot at lake Devo). It really comes down to what can you afford and what do you want to learn? Obviously, graduating AFI masters in directing is a fast track to Hollywood, and gives you amazing exposure to agents and producers.

If you want to learn how to thread a 16mm camera, you can do that without spending the thousands in tuition. I also think that sometimes you can learn a lot by volunteering on set as well as going to school for it - sometimes even more. The $30k you spend on film school could be spent on making a decent feature or spectacular short - but who's to say you're ready for it without some formal training? I dunno. I went to film school but kept a very keen eye out for professional work, and when I felt my academic career was at a standstill, I went for it.

Each person is different. If you have absolutely no connection to film, and live in a city or area that doesn't have a thriving film industry, sometimes film school is the only way for you to get involved with the process. But I wouldn't worry too much about the degree, unless you at some point want to teach (which is extremely valid). Film is an incredibly easy profession to get into (really, almost anyone can get a volunteer P.A. gig on a film set tomorrow if you wanted to) - but very hard to stay in for any length of time. It really is about the last filmmaker standing - and if you have stamina (which I think is sometimes even more important than talent or luck), you have a chance to make it. Film school sometimes is the starting point for that adventure. And if you asked me what's the easiest way to make a movie? I'd say - just go out and make it. Ham & Cheese is living proof of that.

Shoot Good Film,

WPS

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Thanks so much for that! You've really got me thinking about the wide variety of choices I have. Obviously the path that you've chosen has been effective, with the excellent creation of a feature like Ham & Cheese.

The best of luck to you on furture projects!

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warrens: " I also think that sometimes you can learn a lot by volunteering on set as well as going to school for it - sometimes even more."

cdn moviebuff: How do you go about volunteering? I volunteer. Seriously.

Vancouver film school is a great school to be at. I had the opportunity to take one course there. The instructors actively work in the film industry; not just in Vancouver but worldwide. The Delicate Art Of Parking used a great deal of the neighbourhood that VFS campuses are located. IIRC, that movie also used VFS students on the shoots.

The Ham And Cheese DVD is available for sale at The Great Canadian Superstore and HMV in B.C.

I bought two copies. Just because. Canadian indies are cool. It's all a part of history and potential in the making.

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