Helen's Motives


What were Helen's motives for running off with Paris to Troy? This has been discussed before, both on this board and the Troy board, but it's such a fascinating subject that it's worth revisiting.

Of course, we will never know the truth, or if Helen even existed, but if she did and the story is largely true, then IMO she had several possible motives, or any combination of them:

1. Boredom with her life after nine years with Menelaus and the belief that she needed some adventure and romance in her life.

2. Tremendous sexual attraction to Paris.

3. Thinking she was actually in love with Paris.

4. A belief that Troy was a glamorous city with opportunities which she could never have in Sparta. She may have even believed there was a chance to become the Queen of Troy eventually if she married Paris.

5. Did she believe herself to be the daughter of Zeus as some legends claim? If so, she may have believed that the gods would favor and protect her, no matter what she did.

6. She may have genuinely disliked Menelaus, although this seems unlikely, given that Homer shows her later missing him and her old life with him.

7. Helen already knew that at least in Greek circles, she was considered the most beautiful and desirable woman in the world. As such, could she have been Machiavellian and ambitious enough to think that maybe she could seduce Hector, get rid of Andromache somehow and thus marry Hector herself, becoming the queen in waiting? We shall never know, but we can't rule it out.

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Ishiagara

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I agree, Ishi! Especially with 2, 4, and 7. This is more striking in the movie Troy. At least in this mini-series we see some justification for Meneleus being a bad husband.

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One thing that I'm sure is confusing a lot of people who only know about all this from the movie and the miniseries is the fact that Helen was presented much different in the two. Like we've discussed before, the Helen in the miniseries was a very likable, emotional woman who seemed genuinely in love with Paris. She was compassionate too, even offering herself in a trade to Menelaus if he would give back Hector's body. But in Troy, Helen did not seem nearly as warm and human. Nor did she seem in love with Paris there. The twosome had much more chemistry in the miniseries.

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Ishiagara


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yes I totaly agree, they did not have any chemistry in Troy. Although in Helen of Troy I actually believed that they did love each other.

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what i think is that Helen used Paris to get away from Menelaus...
he was just her excuse to leave...

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It would have been virtually impossible to kidnap a queen who was guarded 24/7. The only way she could have left Sparta is to have done so voluntarily, dismissing the guards. Also, Paris was too much of a coward to kidnap anyone.

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Ishiagara


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Yup I remember school...many moons ago....

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There's no evidence anywhere that Helen was kidnapped. Sounds like you're buying into Agamemnon's propaganda.

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If I remember correctly from my Latin lessons a few years ago, Helen ran away with Paris, because Aphrodite promised Helen to Paris in exchange of the Golden Apple (a present to the most beautiful godess ~> see Homerus). So Paris went to Sparta, gave Helen a love potion (given to him by Aphrodite). Helen fell madly in love with Paris and the two lovers fled back to Troy. Menelaos wants his wife back, goes to his brother Agammemnon and begs him to help get Helen back. Thus starting the Trojan War...

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"If I remember correctly from my Latin lessons a few years ago, Helen ran away with Paris, because Aphrodite promised Helen to Paris in exchange of the Golden Apple (a present to the most beautiful godess ~> see Homerus). So Paris went to Sparta, gave Helen a love potion (given to him by Aphrodite). Helen fell madly in love with Paris and the two lovers fled back to Troy. Menelaos wants his wife back, goes to his brother Agammemnon and begs him to help get Helen back. Thus starting the Trojan War... "

Yup, that's pretty much it. Just a few more details...

At the wedding of Thetis and Palleus (parents of Achilles) the God of Discord, angry at having been the only God not invited to the wedding, through the Golden Apple into the precession, saying whatever woman possessed it would be the fairest in the world. Aphrodite, Hera, and Athena all vouched for the egg. Paris gave it to Aphrodite, whom promised him Helen (a real dumb thing to do, seeing as she was by far the weakest of the three godesses, Hera being wife of Zeus and Athena Godess of War - that of course came back to haunt the Trojans)

So Helen is made to fall in love with Paris, and they retreat to Troy; so begins the War.

After Paris is ultimately killed by Philocites (via the Bow of Hercules), Menelous and Helen are reunited, and live together happily forever (at least Menelous was made immortal, but I do believe Helen went to the Blessed Isles, where she has been said to have married Achilles in the afterlife)

And oh yeah, Helen was the daughter of Zeus, if memory serves. And for the Harry Potter fans out there, Helen and Menelous had a lone daughter, Hermione.

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well other than the stories that she ran away with Paris for loving him. There's also a concept in the greel myths that she went unwillingly. Or that Aphrodite had somehow put a spell on her only becoz she promised her to Paris -as someone here in the thread said about the contest and the apple-

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