Just saw it...


This documentary simply took my breath away. I haven't cried like that for a long time. Tears were streaming down my face for the entire second half. After the screening, there were groups of people standing outside, comforting one another as they all tried (and failed) to hold back tears.

Very moving.

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I just saw it today too in class (INI115), and I thought that it was a very suspenseful, and sad, story. However, I would like to point out that many of the interviewees cannot be trusted on everything they say. For example, the teacher in the catholic school said that Sandro was such a nice guy, and "never stole anything"; that is undoubtedly a lie. And that sophisticated sounding proffesor, the one with the beard, that spoke of the 'invisibles', deserves to have HIS swolen head shot off. I also thought that it was a bit underhanded on the part of the film maker to have that shot of the prison in negative. The way it made the prisoners look like monsters (and distorted the colour of their skin) was effective, but dishonest. Notice that our only source of information is the prisoners. How do we know that everything they are saying is true? I'm sure they do get beaten, but don't you think they would be exagerating to get some pity from the rich white people behind the camera? Are we supposed to be made to think that the problem of crime and homelessness is our fault? Sandro was on the street not because of the rich class, but because he ran away from home. He may have done so to get away from the memory of his mother's murder, but how is that our fault? The underlying notion of the film, that we are as much to blame for Sandro's actions as he is, is flawed.

A great film propelled by a great story, but with an agenda.

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I agree with some of what you are saying, however I'm going to wait until after my tutorial tomorrow before I make any of my own conclusions.

It's cool that we're in the same class. I was wondering how long it would take to encounter another INI115 student.

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Which tutorial are you in?

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Friday 12 - 1.
You?

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Friday 11-12

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The film nor those interviewed blame the upper class for Sandro's plight. It merely attempts to bring attention to and public awareness of the situation the homeless and lower class face. How much do you know about being homeless?? Raising awareness does not equate to blame.

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Yes it does.
I am brazilian, I study in an brazilian University, and that is quite all the (leftist) rhetoric our "intellectuals" have for all our social problems.
Did you notice the last part of your comment called for sentiment, not for arguments? Don't start thinking that every leftist who brags about them being the only people that care about the poor is speaking the truth.

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just saw this last night.

I dont believe Sandro's bullets killed Geisa, i believe she was killed by the first shot by police point blank in her face.

No-one should have died, the police you would think especially in Brazil would have experience dealing with these kind of situations, especially the special force who are trained in urban guerilla warfare.

I was shocked upon hearing the results of the survey in which people stated that the street kids should be killed and the city cleansed. As long as the Brazilian government deals with things like this in such a way and as long as the so called invisibles are left to their own Brazil will never move forward.

Be killed to clean the city? WTF, although to some ignorance is bliss. The street kids are deprived of the very things we take for granted, but the way the documentary seems, no one in Brazil could give a *beep* - this will be the nations downfall that prevents progress to becoming a "1st world country"



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isn't the first rule of urban guerilla warfare shoot first and ask questions later? I think they did exactly what they were trained to do.

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Things are more complex than they appear.

Do this kids in candelaria mean anything to Brazil as a nation? No! They only manage to make the country worse, by stealing and using drugs and spreading terror. Don't know if it's true or not, but the woman narrating the candelaria incident told that most the survivors didn't go anywhere at all with their lives.

But killing them isnt going to solve the problem either. Tomorrow new kids will take their places.

Furthermore, a country that wants to be in the first world cannot have executioners in their police force. This is barbaric. Not to count that even tho they were good for nothing little thieves, they were also human beings, tho I dont really pity them.


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This documentary simply took my breath away. I haven't cried like that for a long time. Tears were streaming down my face for the entire second half. After the screening, there were groups of people standing outside, comforting one another as they all tried (and failed) to hold back tears.

Very moving.


NO KIDDING....this documentary will stay with you forever. I still think about from 2002 when I saw it.




"Guys like you don't die on toilets." Mel Gibson-Riggs, Lethal Weapon

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