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That was a really mean thing to say.........


Ray's says he's looking for a 3 bedroom condo for when he meets someone to hopefully have a family with....
Like what about Mirabelle??? Why not her??? She young enough to start a family.
That was just cruel and he should of said nothing rather than come out with something like that. Some things are better left unsaid!

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Yes, that was truly a cruel thing to say and bordering on sadistic because he knew she felt deeply for him (otherwise why would the affair have bothered her as much). He also regretted deeply as soon as he said it so he redeemed himself a tiny bit. This is one of those movies that makes you ache because it's so true. This is also why casual sex relationships have to be handled very carefully if you truly don't want to get attached (and why I also failed at them).

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Thanks for replying.
What was especially mean is that Ray knows she suffers from depression.
It could of put her over the edge.....

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He knows? There are shots of her bathroom pills so we know but I don't think Ray knows.

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He knows, he took her to the doctor after she told him she had stopped taking her antidepressants

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I don't remember that scene being there at all. Was it in the book?

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The scene was in the movie. He definitely knew, but I don't think he meant to hurt her. It was just a stupid comment he just blurted out without thinking.

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Yes, it's incredibly cruel. It shows just how little he really thinks of her. Like she's a piece of rented furniture, to be used by him until he finds something he really likes. Ray P. is a tool.

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Yes, it's cruel. I've had boyfriends in the past say these casually "jokey" things to me too. At the end of the day its not fun to be in a thing that has no definition and an unspoken rule of "this is meaningless and lets keep it that way".



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It would certainly be a thoughtless thing to say in real life, but for the movie it was perfect. It really laid the situation right out there, in plain bare ugly light.

The thing that bugged me about it was that his whole 'plan' is a bit nonsensical. He seems to care for Mirabelle but wouldn't consider her as a life partner because she's young--yet if he wants to start a family in his 50s, it's going to HAVE to be with a younger woman.

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I didn't really buy that he would have said it to her that way - it was one of the only parts of the movie that seemed totally off to me. It might have been a brilliant line, and it worked to show how he really felt -- but I think it would have been more in character if maybe he had said it to someone else and she overheard him. He did care for her, so to me it seemed uncharacteristically stupid and insensitive for him to say it to her the way he did.

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It was such a thoughtless comment. At that moment, I knew she ought to get out of the relationship. Can anybody make such a stupid comment, without realizing it?

Poor Mirabelle.

:-(

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I didn't get that comment at all.

He cared for her. I thought after cheating on her, and then getting a second chance, he would have learned....but then to let that line slip out was so mean and cruel. I didn't really think it fit with his character at all.

He's the one who kept pursuing her...it didn't really make sense.

Although I suppose those relationships do happen in real life. Sometimes, people are just broken...and don't know how to do relationships.

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There are plenty of *beep* likecray out there I can tell you first hand they most often end up smoking, drinking themselves too death, or married 4 times, and almost always end up alone because if they can be cruel like that to someone that has showed them nothing but kindness no one is safe from their crap.

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FooserX, I think your last sentence sums it up really well. He was kind of that way - decent but broken.

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