OH CANADA!!! - Les invasions barbares (2004) Discussion

[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

Couldn't agree more.

It was nice to see Denys Arcand get the Oscar recognition he deserved after being snubbed for Decline of the American Empire and Jesus of Montreal.

It was cute how he said: "My time is up, as usual."

Too bad he couldn't have said a full acceptance speech though.

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[–] ulmo2003 20 years ago

Of course Canada can take credit! After all, it is the canadian health care system that was depicted in that movie... lolll

Seriously, Canada (as well as Quebec and France) gave fundings. Not only that, but whatever our language or cultural differing backgrounds, we have the same basic instincts about politics: not too far on the left nor too much on the right, same snow, same longitude, same beer, same sh*t... And same (tank God expatriated, merci beaucoup to our neighbors) Celine Dion... Whatever. I don't think it is appropriate to do backyard politics using Arcand Tabarnak! This is not about politics, but about Art.. Well maybe not, I wonder if it would've made the same ranking without Miramax.. :)

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

It's all Canadian, and it's all good.

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

Wow, your complaint about Canadians is exactly what many Canadians have said about the Americans. Have we now entered some strange parallel universe?

I think you just need to chill out. Canadians congratulating a very good Canadian film that won at the Oscars shouldn't be threatening to you Yankees.

So we sew the maple leaf on our backpacks, so some of us tattoo the maple leaf on our arms... SO WHAT?!?

Americans fly huge American flags at any opportunity, cheering "U-S-A! U-S-A!" and go "the best country in the whole world" and other jingoistic fervor.

Why can't Canadians show any sense of being proud that something is Canadian (in our very meek manner)?

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

Were you asleep during 9/11? Practically everyone was flying the flag! C'mon, don't sit here and tell me that a lot of people in America aren't very proud of their country, hung the flag outside their house, etc.

I've been in New York and Chicago in the last year, and you literally couldn't walk a block without seeing flags in stores with "United We Stand" or "God Bless America" (esp. NYC). Don't tell me the stuff I'm describing does not exist or is limited to only a few "rednecks."

Stop getting hung up on anybody's national pride (wherever it is). You certainly live in the country that knows how to lap it up.

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[–] OldSamVimes 9 years ago

America can't even have a sporting event without injecting some military patriotism into it.

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[–] ulmo2003 19 years ago

Pizza as we know it in North America was invented in Montreal Canada... 8^P

I wholeheartedly agree with your last post.

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[–] emilie-fiset 19 years ago

'lambert, i don't wave flags, and i don't cheer my country for unneeded reasons. you've apparently been watching very bad american television.

people who do that stuff down here are called "REDNECKS." '

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Funny, last time I stopped by Boston, on my way there we were caught at a red light and to pass the time, we started counting the flags we could see while we were stopped. 12, within about a 30 feet perimeter, top. Now, I don't recall Boston being populated by redneck.

People sewing the canadian flag on their backpack is usually related to travels: it helps spot other canadians, it's a solidarity thing and also a reassuring thing - a somewhat familiar presence in a foreign place. Others do it for pride too, but you'll never see the types of displays you see in the United States here - and shut up, rednecks aren't the only ones by definition over-patriotic, that's not at all what the word means.

I've lived in Quebec all my life, and other than on Confederation Day, I've never seen people hanging canadian flags to their windows like it's so commonly done in the US.

And why do we praise every canadian film that makes it out big? Well damn, cause they are so few that do. The world of cinema is governed by american movies, and while our cinema could be considered somewhat 'indie' - they are crappy films, of course, but they are also a great deal of quality ones. If you stopped and thought for one minute about why you have the impression that we praise every canadian film that you ever heard of, it's because the films that make it through the web of american movies from the mass of canadian movies produced are the very best ones (though, even some of the best ones never make it). What, do we think we make 2 movies a year? Puh-lease.

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[–] burthelukyman 12 years ago

WELL, all he could say was MY TIME IS UP because his bully of a producer (who is also his wife, BTW !!) took all of his speaking time *beep* bitch !)

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[–] gnr_crazy_guns 20 years ago

Sorry man but on 52 movies who was produce by canada this year 37 was made by only one province. Quebec

And You don'T have a culture at all. You are just un pale copy of what americains are.

we are a distinct society in québec. you never came in Québec sir. Our culture is more pruductive and artistic than yours. our culture make more money than yours. Our culture is well know in international area than yours.

Just talk about the provincial flag. Why ontario don't have a provincial flag made by themself and not the british flag in the corner of a red one. We got our provincial flag (quebec) le fleur de lisé before canda got his own.

don't forget that all what have done in canada was made by quebec.

you are not able to write your own national hymn we wrote yours man.
talk about what you know english canadian racist.

God doesn't exist baby.

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[–] pardy_travis 20 years ago

Jee, it's good to know the Quebecers aren't snotty, arrogant, impetuous whiners anymore. I'm from Labrador, pal. We've had to listen to every piece of self-righteous tripe to ever come from you guys. Canada does have a culture. We spend so much time trying to define it, it gets blurry. Quebec has an awesome culture, true... but shut up, jeez!

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[–] mjoliver 20 years ago

Well, it's interesting to see that "la culture québécoise" is still stirring up passions! C'est le prix à payer pour sa qualité.

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

As far as I see it, zhoule (the anglo) and some other French-Canadians are BOTH being snotty and arrogant.

Can't we all just agree that Canada from coast to coast is pretty damn good and leave it at that? My God, the rest of the world envies what we have. Don't piss it all away.

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[–] ulmo2003 19 years ago

I am a québécois, and yes Canada has a distinct culture, a very rich one as a matter of fact! I've travelled a lot in our marvelous country, and could witness that fact quite "eloquently". The problem is that it seems canadians, and specifically anglo-Canadian producers, are turning their back on whatever "local" creation. This form of art has corrupted itself into the laws of "market economy", with the consequence that the language not being some kind of fence (as in Quebec), there is a natural "lack of interrest" - or more realistically "lack of huge piles of cash flowing".

Remember that almost all of our movie theater screens are owned by big american corporations - muich like some kind of "territorial occupation"!

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[–] coffeedemon 20 years ago

I think we in Canada do not have a single prevailing cultural identity. Rather we're made up of many unique and "distinct societies". Look at Newfoundland and Labrador - we're just as unique and culturally significant as Quebec, as are Nova Scotians, Albertans and people of the NWT and Nunavut to name a few. Its this "mutual uniqueness" that makes a single Canadian identity hard to define.

"...but I lied when I said that honesty was dead"

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[–] b_stirrett 20 years ago

Pure ignorance. Why don't you seperate, I would love to see you GREAT PROVINCE survive. You have a distinct society because it is stagnant and on its way down. We have so many different cultures in English Canada, the majority of Quebequers are the same, white. Please do not present your ignorance here, as without English Canada, you could not even make these films.

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[–] retroman85 19 years ago

This is so typical to hear, Gnr_crazy_guns. The french people in Quebec detest the rest of us anglophone Canadians, but they go easy and are friendly to Americans, us English Canadians being a 'pale copy of Americans'.
And right now, just around 50% of Quebec is supporting the Parti Quebecois, just so they can put their name on the global map. This is such typical racism that you insecure Quebecers emanate. When Conan O Brien came up to Montreal City and poked fun at the Quebec people, it made front page news all around Quebec the next day with headlines screaming 'racistes!'. If some Quebecois person ever poked fun at an anglophone for being an anglophone, it wouldn't even make back page in the papers.
I have more respect for the French in France than in Quebec. They have better accents and are the cultural oasis of the artistic Europe and Quebec has not much to offer. Look at what famous celebrities are English Canadians.

-Michael Myers
-Shania Twain
-Alanis Morisette, Avril Lavigne, Matthew Good Band, Sum 41, Tragically Hip, Nickelback
-Pamela Anderson, Carrie Anne Moss, Elisha Cuthbert
-Tom Green
-Martin Short
-John Candy
-Jim Carrey

just to name a few. And these English Canadians are well more recognized around the world, have more photographs of them seen and have had more faces look at them than any other Quebecois celebrity Quebec has to offer, with perhaps the exception of Celine Dion. Oh, and how did Celine, the Francophone from Quebec, get recognized globally? By singing in english.
So maybe you should register for some courses d'anglais because you're grandchildren will be singing it in Quebec. Send your hate mail to each Anglophone-immersion school in rural Quebec popping up- these instutions being created at a record-high pace. No other province in the rest of the country cares if you speak french or not for jobs, cuz French isn't a very practical language to know.

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

Dude,

If you hate French-Canadians so much, why do you stoop to their "level" (for the record, I've met many a fine French-Canadian folks, not all of them are of the kebeckor ilk)? Why are you allowing yourself to be just as bad as kebeckor?

You're just coming off as one of those awful WASP imperialists with "you need to be assimilated and speak English" blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry, but the French helped found this country, making them speak another language is not what we should make them do (even that S.O.B. Stephen Harper acknowledges this!!)

If for whatever reason you find elements of French culture revolting (and you would be completely wrong, BTW), take the higher ground. Don't mirror the actions you claim to despise word for word. It makes you look stupid!

And I really don't know where you feel the French have no culture in this country and claim the English do. English-Canadian culture is heavily Americanized and most people from outside North America would have difficulty telling them apart. Quebec has maintained a cultural identity through and through.

It's really confounding how anyone can look at things with such a narrow mind.

Lemme guess, if you were in the States you'd start yelling and screaming that those "darkies" and immigrants are stealing your jobs as well, huh?

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

Ok, it's clear you just hate the French no matter what (like kebeckor hates the English no matter what), so of course there's no getting through to you, but I must point a few things out to you:

The metalhead stuff. I think you're highly mistaken. I can't speak for how much metal is loved in Quebec, but I think you'll find PLENTY more in Alberta than Quebec. Believe me, I live there. Afterall, look at the Chad Kroegers(ugh!).

Second, Canada is ENGLISH AND FRENCH, get used to it. Start realizing that there's two sides to the Canadian identity, not one narrow-minded sect.

It seems you want only people speaking English in North America. I guess then by extension you'd pack all the Mexicans in a boat back to Spain (especially the ones who've gone to the U.S.) because they don't speak English either. I suppose you'd beat up the Natives if they spoke their own language in boarding schools oh so many years ago. My God, you're xenophobic.

If you don't like the French in Canada, then I think it's YOU who should leave. We should ship off all the intolerant people in this country (you and kebeckor should share a room!) and send 'em to Haiti, then they'll realize how much better they had it in Canada.

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

Free and independent Ontario, huh?

Good, the rest of Canada hates you anyways. :p

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[–] bdlambert 20 years ago

I see you packed up and left, and cleaned your own mess to boot.

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[–] mac_yavel 20 years ago

bdlambert,
If all Canadians think the way you think, I would probably call myself a Canadian too, and I would be proud of it.

Since you realize you are rare in this country, you understand why I call myself a Québécois and I want to live in my own country.

Please tell me you do understand.

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[–] b_stirrett 20 years ago

"Good, the rest of Canada hates you anyways. :p "

Are you not stooping to the same thing that you just criticized? Get off your high horse and walk around a bit. I am from Ontario, and the last time I went to Quebec I was made fun of as soon as I spoke English. Little did they know that I am close to fluent in French. You can say what you want, but Ontario is the business capital of this country, the same way Alberta is the oil capital, and quebec is most likely the cultural capital. Do bear in mind as well that French culture is something entirely unique to North America.

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[–] cthulhulurks 14 years ago

Haiti, yes!

my vote history:
http://imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=27424531

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[–] bananaman2000 20 years ago

Who's the idiot. That is like saying that because Hollywood is in California, they should be called Californian films, not American films. It is a Canadian film. Unless Quebec ever seperates from Canada, which, as a Canadian, I think is ridiculous, it will always be a Canadian film. Or, in the case of Les Invasions Barbares, a Canada/France co-production. I am proud of the film, regardless of what province it is from. Are we going to start referring to the nationality of Canadian films based on what province they are from. Because that is what the Canadian film industry needs, more segregation, to make it even more unstable.

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[–] mac_yavel 20 years ago

Why do you think it is ridiculous for Québec to separate? Seriously, why is it ridiculous to give it's freedom to a whole nation? Please explain cause 49% of the province is actually thinking it is more than important to separate. Are you saying that those persons are ridiculous? Is that what you said? That's interesting man. You spit on your own country!

You want to talk about something ridiculous?
In Canada, 19 out of 20 of the most watched TV show are from USA.
In Québec, 19 out of 20 of the most watched TV show are from, Québec.

Television is like a mirror for a society. So guess what? I think you are americans, but from the North.

To contest the war in Iraq, 200 000 persons from Montreal went in the street, by -20. In Toronto, they were 10 000, Vancouver 5 000, and I think they don't even count Calgary... That's ridiculous, I know.

I'm sorry to said it, but Canadian are not even able to support their own movies, and you are, what, 26 millions? So of course , you are proud of the film, regardless of what province it is from!

In Québec, last year, the most watched movie was Séraphin. In Canada (and maybe in the rest of the world) I think it was LOTR.

There is no Candadian movie industry man. Face it. Maybe the Barbarian invasion is in fact a canadian movie, cause politicaly, we are still in Canada, but who watched the movie? 1 Quebecois out of 4 saw it in Québec. In Canada? not much...

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[–] discojunkie 20 years ago

I am an anglophone living in Montreal, but also the daughter of a french canadian. I feel as though this movie was very good for Canada in general. I hate to admit it but I have always had a somewhat unfavourable opinion of French Canadians, but after watching this movie I realized how unfair that opinion was. I don't think that French Canadians are very often portrayed as the intellectuals that they were in this movie; and I have no doubt that this has contributed to the sense of superiority that a lot of Anglos feel over Francos, and resentment that francos feel toward anglos.

Props to Arcand for showing us a different cross-section of French Canadian culture, I feel that if watching this movie were a mandatory part of education curriculum across Canada, franco/anglo relations would be drastically improved!

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[–] mac_yavel 20 years ago

Your just another canadian living in our country. Is it that hard to say your mother is Québécoise? Can't wait for people like you to leave the place. It's people like you who makes us what you call "radicals".

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[–] canuck014 20 years ago

mac_yavel:

You write as though Quebec is not part of Canada. That is what is ridiculous.
Also, 49% of Quebec residents do NOT think it is better to separate than remain a part of the country they were born in. The result of the 1995 Referendum was affected by many factors. The question was unclear, there was a lot of popular support for Bouchard individually, and there have also been accusations of tampering. That was nine years ago and I think today the number that would vote yes to begin discussions with the federal government about separation would be much lower.

You're right when you say television can be a mirror for a society, but the influence of television is much great in Quebec than in the rest of the country. Why? Because Quebec makes television specifically for Quebecers. It's in French. Obviously many Quebecer's would watch be watching the French television that is produced in their province instead of the English television produced in the USA. Hell, I watch the news on Radio-Canada.

The television and movies industries in Quebec have also benefitted from great amounts of funding from the federal government, much more so than that given to other provinces.

Your question "why is it ridiculous to give it's freedom to a whole nation?" is what is really ridiculous. You're saying that Quebec is enslaved by the rest of Canada. What really happens is that the federal government caters to Quebec. You are not slaves. Comparing yourself to them is offensive.

I love Quebec. I love the people, I love the sights, I love the culture, I love the cinema that comes out of it. I went to a French Immersion school in Winnipeg that was strongly geared towards Quebec culture. Many of my friends are francophones. But they don't understand why many Quebecers want to separate and neither do I. Do we live in a world where two groups of people separated by only cultural differences are unable to live in the same country? What a shame. I, for one, am proud to be Canadian and celebrate the diversity of our great land.

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[–] leminh_amd 20 years ago

[To contest the war in Iraq, 200 000 persons from Montreal went in the street, by -20. In Toronto, they were 10 000, Vancouver 5 000, and I think they don't even count Calgary... That's ridiculous, I know. ]

LOL, we (Albertan) even have people protest in supporting the war effort. People wave big american flag and such.( *there you are* :D )

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[–] ulmo2003 19 years ago

I would not like Quebec to separate. Let's give anglo-canadians the necessary time to adjust to the fact that we are no more the "white neggers" of the North, which was the case 50 years ago... That's quite recent, and it takes one to two generations to get used to this fact... It's like when your big brother, who was using/abusing you when you were a child, has to suddenly confront the idea that it's all in the past, that things have changed on your part, and thus that the "traditional" perception must also change.

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[–] ulmo2003 19 years ago

<<< That is like saying that because Hollywood is in California, they should be called Californian films, not American films. >>>

Actually, when you think about it, it should be the case! There are two distinct philosophies in USA regarding movie production: one which gives freedom to the creators (in New York); the other one dictating a strict commercial pattern, also being the house-factory for all those "National Security" movies as Independance Day, Arfmaggedon and such. Why do you think Woody Allen could have never produced his movies in Hollywood? Same goes for many film makers that are in New York. Hollywood is the fore-arm of Disney (the later preparing the youth to fall for Hollywoodian propagenda movies - preparing people to get "conditionned" by Hollywood). New York is the heart of USA's cultural cinema.

Better laugh about all this...

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[–] wred01 20 years ago

What's with all the anger and talk about separation or not? I'm new here and I thought this board was about movies?

BTW, I am an ex-Quebecker anglophone living in Toronto (yes, I speak French), and I love Quebec and think that its culture is obviously distinct. Does that mean it HAS to be a separate country? I don't want Quebec to separate, but if it does, life will go on. Reasonable people can disagree about things like that without descending into name-calling (on either side).

But until it happens, the film is BOTH a Quebec film and a Canadian film. That's just how it is.

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[–] jonnyjones72 20 years ago

The rest of Canada could learn a lot from Quebec, at least culture-wise that is. We don't necessarily need to be arrogant and ethnocentric like a lot of people from Quebec these days. But they do have one thing going fof them, they know who they are.
I can't tell you how many times that wimp Ben Mulrooney has asked some American movie star during a CTV interview, 'What do you think of Canada? What's your favourite part of Canada? What was it like filming a movie in Toronto? Are you going to come back? Please like me! I can be cool!'
We have such an inferiority complex there's no way anyone can respect us even when we do something good. And when a movie like the Barbarian Invasions comes around the rest of Canada wants to take credit and start waving flags. We didn't really have anything to do with it.
I suppose it's time for the idiotic American culture junkies to wake up. Maybe the CRTC has to get involved and legislate all the theatres across Canada to play Canadian films. They did it with music. Although we only ended up with Sam Roberts and Nickelback, pretty bad examples of Canadian music, but at least there's a culture of opportunity now. It's only a matter of time before we create our own Pink Floyd or Nirvana.
It could happen with movies too! If Quebec can do it, why can't the rest of Canada?

btw, I'm a westerner and a scriptwriter trying to figure out why canadian films are found in the foreign section at the video stores. Maybe Nanaimo BC isn't the best place to be right now. I guess everyone's too stoned to watch a movie that makes you think.

J

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[–] diegese 20 years ago

Please, please, please!!

you're all giving me an headache.

No wonder there is still war on this planet. Some of you are so blind to others people culture, it's just crazy. Instead of insulting each other why don't you try to understand each other. I live in Montreal for 26 years & I'm 27. I know what multicultural means. I'm a ''quebecois'' my friends are american, chinese, italian, israelian, cuban & so on. My best friend was raise in Toronto & we don't fight all day regarding our culture. To grow up you need to open to others & to learn from them, not the opposite. My friends did not make me a lesser ''quebecois'' cause there are from a different culture, no. I took what I liked from there culture & added it to mine & they did the same with me. That's just being human & thinking outside the box. The box could be your village, your province, or your country... Just go out there & have fun, travel, experience, talk to other person & have sex with other people too!!

Don't think only in terms of I'm canadian or I'm quebecois or I'm whatever... you are a human being, a citizen of the WORLD... you know that big round thing.

Just think about it!!

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[–] mark_in_rio 20 years ago

This is the lamest thread ever. I can't believe I waisted another 10 or so minutes reading the bulletin board on IMDB again! Thanks for nothing.

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[–] TT_Showbiz 20 years ago

Correction
Canada is Great
America is great(except for bush)
Quebec ... are fake frenchies and why would anyone want to be french??

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[–] nancy1226 20 years ago

Did anyone in this thread see this movie? It seems to have morphed into an Anglo-Canadian/USA-bashing. In my opinion, the most compelling part of the film was Remy's obvious anguish about all the millions of lives lost in the 20th century due to wars, ethnic cleansings, territorial acquisitions and colonialism. Man killing man for whatever reason they find to justify it. Was it just me, or did anyone else get the message. Isolationism just doesn't work anymore. I live in Ft Worth, a city in Texas, a state in the United States of America, a country in the North American continent, a continent of the world. You from Quebec, likewise live in a neighborhood, in whatever city, in the Province of Quebec, a Province of Canada, ALSO a country in the North American Continent, etc...
This movie was very good. It's portrayal of the Canadian medical system beauracracy would have been hilarious, if it were not so close to the truth. It deserved the Oscar, but I have seen some of the other contenders and they were just as good. To argue that this is a Quebec film, rather than a Canadian film is just too silly. Look beyond your borders.

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[–] bloodsmurf 20 years ago

Awful truths coming out of this thread

1 - There are idiots
2 - Even when Quebec will get its independance (which is a matter of time), there will still be idiots, some will even be partying while others will be rioting.
3 - Idiots are allowed to post on imdb
4 - People tend to think that most people living in a country are the same as their leaders
5 - That generates a lot of hate (must be hard being american, israeli or from an arab nation these days)
6 - Threads on imdb rarely talk about movies (or maybe i've been reading too many f911 threads lately)
7 - American movies are not all crap, it's just that those that make it outside the country and into you multiplexes often are)
8 - Canadian and Quebec movies are not all good but it's so hard getting money to make a movie here so the crap usually doesn't pass the funding test (and most probably some good ideas don't make it either)
9 - People in Quebec watch more local productions cause they don't speak english (and dubs are awful, except The Simpsons of course)
10 - I spend too much time on here and watching movies

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[–] Drizzt2 20 years ago

I'm from Quebec, from the back country and I speak french. I hate when obsessed people like mac_yavel talk about Quebec as a country. It makes me feeeel weird when I think I'd be so labelled. I like to be nobody, to be unique, not just another republique de bananes osti! Look, in Canada we are a land of tolerance and we are an example since we succeed in living together with different cultures. Yeah right we have many different cultures (Quebec being one of them) so should the country be different? Never! What do you think? Let's close our borders to immigrants? You're everything I hate, retarded. Sorry I had to say it since I don't hate every separatist but the way you passed your message insulting others canadians and being so arrogant, confirming stereotypes when on the other hand I try to leave a good image to the rest of the world. Come on, you didn't change their mind, you just acted the same way other Quebecers that made them think this way. Seriously, what's the point in regression you like? People are right when they say Quebec is stagnant. It's like if you'd like to hide yourself in a small village from the rest of the world. Close the borders, everything, just like your mind. Hiding will not stop the problems you fear, you should face it instead of flyin away.

And finally, since this board is suppose to be about movies, I'd like to say I don't like people from Quebec or Canada taking credit for this film and using this film to pass their message. It's Arcand's movie, no matter whath your nationality is. YOU DID NOT PARTICIPATE DIRECTLY TO THIS MOVIE and it makes you seem just as stupidly patriotic as some americans are. My identity is partly cultural, but mainly personnal. And I think it's the same for everyone so forget culture, traditions or anything because it shouldn't affect your judgements.

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[–] kymeoan 20 years ago

Hmm.. it was a good movie. Take away people's opinion on politics. Still a good movie.

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[–] retroman85 17 years ago

Lovely. This thread is not even visible when scrolling back to all the posts back to 2003. SO hopefully this bump will put it back on the board.
I wonder why it's not visible, though. Is it perhaps there is too much hate speech that we have upset the delicate administrator?

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[–] videavice 12 years ago

Vive le Québec libre! Et le Canada libéré de ses complexes.

We love the both of you. English canadian and french canadian are the people of the same country. You're brothers, always fighting about non relevant things but in fact you love each other and take credit of each other successes.

Yes! Québec have a very strong culture, not a fake french culture but an original and different one(And I know what I mean, I'm french). And english canadians look sometimes as pale US citizens from the north(Why Nickelback looks like a Texas rock band? Dam.n!!).

Beside all of it, your country is what it is because of your differences. People loves Canada for its two parts. Stay united, it's my french advice because you never, ever wanna live the Belgium situation, the South African case or the wipe out of the tibetan culture by the Chinese governement.

Gros bisou à Arcand

cave canem

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