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And starring Pedro Armendariz as Pancho Villa


I wasn't too impressed by Mr. Banderas as Villa. Overall, I felt that he didn't possess the charisma for such a role. Moreover, I think I'm too accustomed to seeing Pedro Armendariz in that role.

For anyone interested in seeing an extremely entertaining depiction of Villa, I highly recommend the Pancho Villa triology that was made by Ismael Rodriguez during the 1950s. The triology is in no way factual, and the disclaimer at the opening credits emphasize that the movie focuses on anecdotes dealing with Villa's character, as recollected by word of mouth among the common people. Nevertheless, Pedro Armendariz's performance as Villa makes the movie all the worthwhile. Most U.S. audiences are only familiar with Armendariz's work in "Enamorada" and "La Perla." In many ways, however, the Villa films are among the best he ever did, surpassing in many ways his acting in "La Perla."

Oddly, what many people don't know is the John Steinbeck (who is credited for writing "Viva Zapata") wanted Armendariz for the Zapata role. Unfortunately, Hollywood had its way and cast Marlon Brando in the title role. Throughout his Hollywood career, Armendariz was largely limited to secondary roles in "Fort Apache," and "From Russia with Love" (his final role before his suicide in June 1963). This was probably due to his not falling into the "Latin Lover" cliche that Hollywood like to promote so often back then (and to some degree, even now). For this reason, it's all the more ironic to see Banderas (the current prototype for the "Latin Lover" cliche) play a role that was perfected by Armendariz.

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Pedro Armendariz, Jr. coincidentally appears in "And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself", as well as "Once Upon a Time in Mexico", as El Presidente. Does anyone know if any of the Mutual film survived?

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Armendariz Jr. is an okay actor, but he pales in comparison to his late father. Pedro Armendariz was, and always will be, one of the greatest legends of the Mexican cinema, along with "El Indio" Fernandez.

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I would agree with you that Jr. is nothing compared to his Father but don't sit there and say that he's only an "okay" actor. Are you a licensed movie critic? I had the pleasure of being next to ARMENDARIZ in a movie. I played the Role of Jimmy, His employee. Let me tell you, that man is intimidating!!! Boy can he method act! He got my blood a boiling on some scenes that I was in with him. And he actually scared me in one scene where he screamed at us. Give that MEXICANO the credit he deserves. Thank you for your time.

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You don't have to be a movie critic to have favorite actors; if Armendariz Jr. is one of you favorite actors, then no one is going to keep you from being a fan of his. I usually rank Armendariz Jr. along with the new generation of actors that came to prominence in the 60s, among them Enrique Rocha, Enrique Lizalde, Julio Aleman. If I referred to him as an "okay" actor it's because I've never really been a fan of his (I'm more a fan of Rocha than Armendariz Jr.) Still, I don't recall ever having said that Armendariz Jr. was a horrible actor. He's always given good performances, but he doesn't even come close to his father.

As far as giving a MEXICANO his due, my original message emphasized that Armendariz should be given his due. Steinbeck actually wanted him to play Zapata, but Hollywood got its way and gave the role to Brando. If there's any Mexican actor that has never gotten the rightfully deserved recognition from either Hollywood or U.S. audiences, it's Pedro Armendariz.

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Thanks for the thoughtful Pedro Armendariz tip! I'll see if I can locate his movies & give them a look. I respect that you weren't that crazy about Banderas' portrayal, but glad you were civil enough to offer an alternative, not to mention a critique that didn't involve a rant.

From what I've read about Villa, I'll agree Banderas wasn't 100% physically spot-on to recreate him but I can live with that. I'm just happy a movie on Villa was made available for the general public to view.
And while I can understand those that cry out the film was historically inaccurate, the fact people tend to forget is that Hollywood isn't into making 100% historically accurate films, they're into making movies that'll pay for the expense of making the film, and then turn a profit.

I'm not clamoring for more celluloid historical oddities like Pearl Harbor. Yet while I love historical spot-on "Tora, Tora, Tora", from its box office returns apparently the general ticket-paying crowd did not.

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Pedro Armendáriz is the only actor that could fill Villa's shoes. He not only had a remarkable physical resemblance with Villa but he also was much better actor than Banderas will ever be.
I also liked Domingo Soler as Villa in "Vámonos con Pancho Villa".

from the bunch of gringos who have played Villa on screen, Wallace Beery is the best one. But he can't touch Pedro Armendáriz.

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