Reed was twice the Revolutionary Villa were

Its not about whos better then who.Its about good people and the great things they did.Next time you see a film like this,try to remember these people are great and have a place in history like the others.Never compaire heros,appreciate.

You have every historical fact wrong. Mexico was only a colony until about 1811 and that was of Spain. Russia was never anyones colony in any form. The communist revolution was made up of the industrial working class from the cities and they did not include the rural peasantry, they in fact despised them. No one invaded Russia during this time because all of the countries you listed were busy fighting World War I. Japan had fought a war with Russia in 1904-05, but it was fought in China. Even the official Soviet histories written after the revolution were more accurate than this and they were pure propaganda. The Mexican Revolution was in fact a series of revolutions and none were of the classic marxist type, though communist have tried ever sinse to co-opt it into one. Pancho Villa was a succcessfull regional revolutionary as was Zapata, and though they led armies of the rural working class, neither of them were communists.

Umm... yea, Mexico is a semi-colony of the US. I guess I just slept through eight years of my life thinking I was Mexican when in fact.... *gasp*! I was already US citizen!

First of all, Mexico is not a cololy at all (at least not for 200 years). Second, the reason Mexico didn't "become a super power" was because we've had corrupt presidents all the waaaay back to the Pancho Villa days. Basically, the revolution got rid of a bad government and put in a worse one, the party that controlled the government for 70+ years, the PRI.

Only recently is Mexico making progress, and even then, I don't see Fox doing much anyways. Also, Pancho Villa and Zapata did work together---- until they were savagely murdered in an ambush. Anyways, Mexico isnt a colony now, nor was it ever a "semi-colony" of the US. We even went against Bush in his Iraqi Invasion, so that proves Mexico is independent... I think....

So i guess our wordsmith friend is a red blooded distilled water drinking american. B/c there is everything wrong with helping the entire people. The same person who believes that welfare should not be handed out nor unemployment allowed b/c they are screwing the tax payers. B/c our gov't certainly does not use our money in worse ways like spending over 37 trillion bucks since world war 2 on defense spending. And of course our glorious system is a perfect example of common decency and there is not a stamp of corruption anywhere despite the fact the socialist and marxist are fought tooth and nail, assasinated b/c they threaten democracy's stranglehold on the world currency. Ummm yeah america my country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty of thee we sing.

but hey marxism cant work on a global stage b/c it would not stand well with the global powers, hey it's nice that the few control the billions.

is man one of gods mistakes or god one of mans mistakes

Your stupid analisys is out of place, Mister. The internet is home of such loser writers. Go make a book about this unkown Reed instead of put your absurd post on a board for Villa.

"Villa was a leader of a peasant revolt..."


An army of, at one point, 30000 men, an elite group of expert horsemen "Los Dorados"; regular cavalry, even a small air force (two aircrafts) which was, and still is, very impressive for a revolutionary general; trains and artillery etc is hardly a "peasant revolt". Aside from the fact that many of his men were soldiers of fortune and deserters from the federal army, even American soldiers were fighting with Villa. He was a born general who couldn't function in a world without war. He was no statesman but he gave land to the people, he believed in the revolution. He did his part well in the history of my country. I'm sure Reed was a great revolutionary but that doesn't make Villa any less of a hero (or a revolutionary) to my people.


"The reason why Mexico remained a semi-colony of the US and Russia went on to become a super power (Russia was a also a semi-colony in 1917) is that all the peasant leaders were either brought together to work for the revolution - they became generals in the Red Army - or were crushed by the Red Army."

Actually thats exactly what happened in Mexico. The remaining Revolution leaders formed the PNR/PRI party who stayed in power for 70 years. Villa was murdered because he was still a very powerful figure in the minds of the people, a constant threat to the government.

BTW if you want to know the true reason why México is not yet a superpower, and probably never will (is among the 10 biggest economies of the world, though), look no further; The former dictator Porfirio Díaz might have been a tyrant but he was not stupid at all, he said once: "Poor of México, so far from God and so close from USA!"

Look, who stole from México whole the land between Texas and California? Now name the richest states in USA.

There you have the answer.

My God! It's been such a long time since I've read such an idiotic post.

For starters what makes you think the Russian revolution was a success?

Have you ever read Das Capital? Tell me, how does Karl Marx's postulates resembles in any way what happened to Russia?

Marxism is based on the idea that an industrial society that has lived through a fruitful capitalist history has the resources to then overthrow the ruling party by the laborer's and then the community can create a new government in which the proceeds of the country are shared by all. Property is non existent because it all belongs to the state.

Therefore when Lenin, Trotsky et. al. got familiar with these ideals they noticed their country was completely underdeveloped because the economy was still mostly based on Catherine the Greats policies which supported and agricultural economy. Henceforth the situation was precarious to say the least. Therefore they came up with their own ideology. Meaning that they used socialist ideas and applied them to a feudal system that was still used in Russia.

Then when Lenin came to power he committed the huge mistake of naming an ignorant and sadistic Josef Dzhusgvili aka Stalin (man of steel) as his secretary general. Now Stalin knew he was no intellectual and knew that Lenin's favorite to succeed him was Trotsky so he created a persona much more based on Nietzche's superman that on communist ideals.

After Lenin's stroke Stalin took over. After his death Stalin ruled over the Soviets and then butchered anyone who opposed him. The result was that the real intellectuals who could do something positive for Russia were either killed, or exiled or both. Such as Leon Trotsky who casually moved to Mexico, supported the ideas of the Mexican revolution, wrote his ideas and educated people like Diego Rivera and Fridah Kahlo in the failed state of the USSR and the Russian Revolution. In the meantime Stalin had a reign of terror murdering during his time in power more than 12 million people (more than the WWI and WWII put together). Among those he sent a hired killer to off Trotsky in Mexico who died by being repeatedly stabbed to death with an icepick in his own home.

Stalin knew nothing about how to run a state so he kept every record a secret and created the KGB so anyone who went against him was immediately identified and killed. He acted like a military superpower and drained Russia's resources to the most. However, he was a talented military strategist which allowed him to keep up with his super-nation lie. After his death henchmen like Nikita Kruschev and so forth all kept using his methods leading poorer nations to believe in all the lies such as Cuba (who is one of the poorest nation's of the world today).

Why do you think that during the Cold War Russia only threatened the USA and never really attacked? Because they had nothing to back them up! However, the brilliance of that was that nobody knew that. That and only that allowed them to keep their leverage in the international forum. This resulted in such atrocities as the Berlin Wall.

Finally lying was impossible. The economy was completely breaking and the people started waking up to their terrible ordeal. Hence came the Perestroika and Gorbachev did the only correct thing and allowed the fall of the Soviet Union. Stalingrad converted back to its rightful name of St Petersburg, the KGB dissolved and finally all the crimes against humanity were revealed. Dystopias such as Orwell's Animal Farm and 1984 proved not to be just theories but harsh realities suffered by the Soviets for many many years.

Stalinism was so detrimental to an otherwise brilliant nation that Russia still cannot overcome it. It's economy and government is still based on corruption and Mafia making Russia the highest consumer of pirate products in the world. The situation is so bad that the IMF has ceased to even consider it for loans.

That's what you call successful? Dear Lord...

Mexico's revolution has nothing to do with that situation thank God. And by the way the term semi-colony does not exist. Mexico's downfall was that while it was fighting its revolution the USA was creating an industry based on warfare (WWI), therefore creating magnates such as Rockefeller and Ford. So be the 20's we had not evolved economically and they had. However, when 1929 crash happened the USA looked at Mexico for cheap labor.

It was then when they could have appropriated themselves of the other half of the country that they have always wanted. However, President Cardena's was smart enough to limit foreign investments in the country and went to such an extreme as to declaring oil a national resource that can only be exploited by the Mexican government.

This means that to this day Mexico is one of the richest countries in the world and the strongest economy in Latin America. However, after 70 years of rule by the same party created a social elite that every year gets richer and makes the poor poorer. So much so that only 2% of the population gets into college.

What Porfirio Diaz stated saying poor Mexico so far from God and so close to the United States is absolutely true. Because the US has always wanted our natural resources and has constantly bitch slapped us because of it. However, that is not because we are a "semi-colony" it's because most of the population is ignorant and the international treaties like NAFTA have proven incredibly profitable for the Mexican elite. How else would you explain the fortunes of Carlos Salinas, Salinas Pliego o Carlos Slim (the 3rd richest man in the world).

To be a colony we would have to depend on the USA in some way. However, the US depends on Mexico much more than we do on them. Something like 65% of all American imports come from Mexico. So until the population educates itself and understands this, things will not change. When Mexico wakes up and understands that if we decide not to export our riches it could mean the USA's imminent collapse, then the cards will turn in our favor.

Hence, with all our problems... including corruption, drug dealers, lack of education, insecurity etc etc etc Mexico has been and forever will be much better off than Russia. The ideals of the Revolution are outdated but I'm sure that soon enough with the current political climate we will see history rewrite itself again.

So next time, buy a history book or two... read some political analysts, look up some statistics, research some case studies... otherwise shut up and please don't display your lack of intelligence by making such absurd comments. You only embarrass yourself.