Does Harbour know...? SPOILERS!


Do you think Harbour knew that Wilbur was having an affair with his wife right after the part where he says "shall we make it an early night?" He begins to kiss Alice, and the kiss seems to go sour, and Harbour makes an expression that he tasted something wrong. It's almost as if he tasted Wilbur in Alice.

At one point near the beginning of the film Harbour suggests to Wilbur that Alice is "right up Wilbur's alley." Wilbur responds by saying "no, you can have her."

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Yes, I do think that.
I also think that is the reason why he kills himself. He knows that Wilbur has found complete happiness in Alice, and that if he takes her away from him, he'll go and try to kill himself again. I think he commits suicide in the end to please everyone.
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Didn't Mary's "will you sleep in Wilbur's old room" give it away?

You are what you love, not what loves you.
(Donald Kauffman, Adaptation)

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Indeed!

I think it is also obvious where he tells Alice that how both his dad and mum were fond of Wilbur, it was actually like everyone is fond of Wilbur. (I found that part a bit reproachful to his dad. Indirectly reproaching against his wife too maybe!)And he secretly endured this situation resiquedly. Left them alone! Once again and for the last time he sacrificed his own life for the good of his wee btoher's.

That was quite disturbing and unjustice to swallow. But it is what generally happens to giving men. Isn't it?



so long, and thanks for all the fish!

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Harbour was an angel. It's impossible to love someone so utterly perfect - he wants nothing for himself, only for his family to be happy. I thought it was obvious that he engineered for Alice and Wilbur to get together.

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I thought the same as canadian film buff.

Didn't Harbour know Wilbur and Alice were having an affair when Mary said "will you sleep in Wilbur's old room?"

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OK, I don't believe in the angel theory but the rest of your post is an extremely nice interpretation!

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I also think that Mary's question gave Harbour a definite clue.
And I can remember that in the scene before Harbour takes the cab back to hospital, he says something like "it's nice when people find each other" to Wilbur, which I thought to be a hint to the relationship between Alice and Wilbur.

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I was wondering a good deal about what Harbour referred to, when he made this remark to Wilbur "It's nice that people find each other when they don't have anybody else".

I tended toward thinking that he was talking about Alice and himself. Alice had been in desperate need of a husband and Harbour loved somebody else to take care of besides his brother Wilbur. So their marriage could be thought of as an obvious thing to go into, since they both needed somebody, just like Wayne (the lorry-driver) and Moira (the nurse).
The relationship between Wilbur and Alice was on the contrary not practical at all; it created guilt in both and pain in Harbour and wasn't anything that is publicly approved of. It was true and deep love, which Wilbur seemingly hadn't encountered before.

But when I read your post, electrolite, it hit me that Harbour also could have hinted at Alice and Wilbur finding each other in lack of anybody else. In that case he had reasoned that Alice needed somebody since he himself was in hospital, and he had always wanted Wilbur to find a girlfriend. This must have given him more comfort than the first possibility, since it wouldn't question the love between Alice and himself.

I don't mean to say that this love wasn't true or deep, I'm sure that Harbour loved Alice very much and that she also loved him, but in a different way than she loved Wilbur which was probably more passionate and exiting.

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No i dont think he knew and i think he changed his mind about the sex cos he was dying therefore quickly lost the urge to have sex



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