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Everything bad about movie making...So why can't I look away


This is one of those "so bad, it's good" movies

Like:
Cool as Ice
Tango and Cash
Cobra
Showgirls

Name any more???

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Harley Davidson and the Marlboro man--sooo good, sooo bad.

Road House--Dalton Rocks!!

I think its called "Barb Wire" with Pamela Anderson-action, more action and Pamela in black leather.

Lion Heart--Van Damme at his best

Runaway--Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons--little robotic creatures everywhere--great flick

Marked for Death--Steven Seagal vs the Jamaican Drug lords--Better than Under Seige.

Thats all that come to me right now... Anybody Else?




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You just named some of my favorite movies. Pretty much anything with bikes is cool with me.
You can't watch serious film everyday you have to relax and let your brain deflate sometimes.

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what someone actually watched cool as ice? wow im impressed that someone A) watched it B) didnt kill themselves for doing so.

torque is truly one of the worst acted, directed, written and just ridiculously bad movies ever made.

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Then I have to see it!



I already know what you mean when you say, "This is one of those "so bad, it's good" movies"

There are several like that. I think Napoleon Dynamite was one of them. I couldn't get my eyes off the screen. :)

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It's a no-brainer, popcorn, chill out, forget realism and enjoy the fun type of film. I like it.

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And if you believe the director it was intentional: http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/05/08/the-filmcast-after-dark-ep-98-the- making-of-torque-and-the-imagery-of-kick-ass-guest-joseph-kahn-directo r-of-torque/

Edit: Or you can read the transcript I've typed up below.

Here's a piece of the first 4.5 minutes of the interview with the director, Joseph Kahn, that the /filmcast had. David Chen, and Devindra Hardawar are two of the interviewers.

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Chen: So Torque is generally regarded as one of the best-worst action films of all time, in my opinion anyway. I have a feeling that this designation doesn't bother you too much. Can you talk about what you were trying to do, when you were creating Torque.
Kahn: Well you know what, it doesn't bother me, and I can completely understand where that's coming from, cause it was kind of my intention. It wasn't exactly the movie I wanted to make, but I think it's like 75% of the movie I wanted to make. Believe it or not, it's kinda crazy what I wanted to make. Usually I think I'm pretty good at marketing, cause I come from a music video/ commercial background, and in my head when I got this film, I turned it down a couple times, but finally in my head I just suddenly thought, I hate these *beep* Fast and Furious films, I just hate them with a passion. I think they're shot terribly, they're lit terribly, the actors are *beep* wack. There's just this whole pseudo-cool homo-eroticism going through the whole thing -
Hardawar: You don't live your life a quarter mile... a second? (Ed. note: this is an apparently botched reference to a quote from Torque, Ford says, "I live my life a quarter mile at a time," and Shane responds, "that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard." This quote itself is a parody of a line from The Fast and the Furious.)
Kahn: No, I definitely don't live my life a quarter mile a second. The other thing is, I'm an Asian dude, and I'm not really a part of that whole biker culture thing. So I don't really look at it like that's an aspirational model for my life. Also, I know there are Asians that are into that stuff, but I'm not one of those guys that drives around in my Honda Prelude with a giant *beep* speaker in the back. I watch science-fiction films. So the only thing that registered to me, maybe I could do something that's like, in my head I wanted to do with these Fast and Furious movies like what Evil Dead 2 did with horror films. The pisstake version of it. It's gotta be funny, these are stupid *ss movies, but what if I made one that was really *beep* stupid? These people are supposed to be good looking, why don't I cast it really *beep* good looking? These stunts are supposed to be impossible, why don't I make them reeeally impossible? Why don't we just do everything balls to the wall, and let's make it really *beep* short, and really fast. So in my head I made this weird Japanese.. animation.. slash Ice Cube.. *beep* *laughs* -
Hardawar: Oh yeah, it's very anime.
Kahn: Oh and also, this is the other thing, I wanted to put product placement, they always have product placement, so why don't I just keep repeating that, over and over again, and make a joke out of it. So I made this movie, and I remember the studio, when we finally screened it, the marketing person goes -
Chen: I wanna be in that room, by the way -
Hardawar: This is the best movie ever! (clearly comically quoting the studio)
Kahn: *laughs* The marketing person goes, "I get it, you're making a cult movie, I get it, I don't think anyone else is going to get it." And guess what, nobody else got it. *laughs* So what the *beep* was I doing? What was in my head when I decided to make a movie like that in the first place? Because, who is the audience for a movie like that? It entertains the sh*t out of me, but I don't think it really entertained that many other people, I think it turned into this sort of.. it just flew over people's heads. If you look at my music video work at the time, I mean I was putting Wu Tang Clan with dinosaurs, I made a Chemical Brothers video where I animated everybody's lips, I was just really into funny surreal stuff. I just thought, ya know what, if I get to make my first movie, and they're going to give me 30 million dollars, I'm going to go balls to the wall, and try to do as many *beep* crazy things as I can, and see what happens. *laughs*

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Get Him to The Greek: 7/10
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i may need to add this one to my famous drunk list:

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls009396968/


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Boy, the Og-Man sure can run a line of sh!t, can't he?

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This movie is so obviously intentionally bad that it makes for great entertainment. There's nothing more to say. It's stupid and completely overblown and I liked it.

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