Awful Movie!


I thougth this was a really horrible film. The basic premise is that a woman has to become a lesbian to experience true happiness. The viewer is expected to sympathize with the main character because she falls in love with "a person" who just happens to be another woman. What if her new lover was a man? Nobody would like a character who deserts her husband and children for a heterosexual fling so the lesbian angle is the only way to make her sympathetic. Also, the prevailing message in the film was that lesbianism is the road to true happiness, and that message is quietly demonstrated. For example, the office secretary (heterosexual) has the line concerning lesbianism, "I tried it once, but it just didn't work out for me." The message is that all women should try it to see if it works out for them. When the main character goes to tell her mother that she is now gay, she is upset and and dreads the confrontation, but in spite of this, the mother's maid says to her, "Honey, I've never seen you look happier." The message there is that no matter how bad you feel, being a lesbian makes you happy. The characters who accept her new lifestyle are seen as caring, intelligent, and likeable. The ones who don't are stupid, self-centered, completely out of touch, and are dislikable. What is lost is the fact that the main character left her husband and children, destroying her family, for her own selfish needs. At one point, she tells her lover, "I don't know if this will last forever," meaning that she is willing to hurt the people who love her, mostly her children, just to satisfy a temporary need for herself. This woman completely ignored her responsibilities and she is supposed be admired for that. Once again, make the new lover a man and see if you can dredge up any sympathy or respect for her at all.

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Well said! I have to agree with you. Personally, I wish I had never even watched this movie.

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Kate left her husband before she met Mac-they may still have been living together but they were over.Why should she have gone back to Jack-she didn't love him,wanting to be happy isn't selfish,especially when her relationship had nothing to do with her marriage ending.And Kate wasn't a lesbian she was bisexual and yes she was happy with Mac but gender had nothing to do with it,they connected,mac listened to her understood her.

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Well, becoming a lesbian does make you happy (at least for women anyway). This is a secret we must never, ever in a million years let women learn- or we'll be in big trouble! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072000/plotsummary

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In their efforts to make the mother a completely ignorant and out of touch character, the writers created some unintentionally hilarious dialogue. When Kate tells her mother that she is in love with another woman, and that her lover's name is "Mac," the mother says, "Mac?? Is that a good lesbian name??""

I don't care who you are. That's funny!!!

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not really sure about that. I teach and there are quite a few lesbians in my school. many of them are negative, lazy, perpetually upset/pissed off about something or other and quick to pull the Gay card on anyone who calls them out on their shi7 -- whether it is gay related or not. not at all related to the gay factor. they also think they are better than everyone else -- or at least act like they are.


in fact, one made it her purpose in life to find the next mrs-herlastname at our school. went through five relationships at the school [destroyed them all] and tried to convert me to be a lesbian['you're a lesbian and don't know it yet' -- she actually said this to me].

her last relationship she is still in although it is on and off because she keeps on cheating on her. and guess what... whenever one is absent from work, the other one is absent from work, too. surprise surprise! how are we not to call them out on their crap when they pull crap???


Oh God. Fortune vomits on my eiderdown once more.

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I have to totally disagree with you! First off this is a story . . . One person's story. Nothing more and nothing less. I happen to know that there are a TON of women over on the Lifetime boards that have said that this story really hit home or was about their life.

Their marriage was over before she even met Mac (Wendy Crewson). The opening of the movie is where she tells her husband . . . They had already done the whole counseling thing and that did not work. I grew up in a family that "stayed together for the kids" because my mom believed in her marriage. I happen to disagree . . . If a person is not happy in a marriage, why stay? The kids know . . . Or at least we always did. We had to walk on egg shells a lot of our life. Why put everyone through that. (I also happen to be a Christian and lesbian . . .) Just to let you know where I am coming from. I happen to know many lesbians who come out later in life AFTER they already have a family. I'm the last of the baby boomers and things were different back when I was a kid. Many just assumed that is what they are supposed to do . . . Get married and have children. But find out later in life that there are other possibilities. I came out later in life . . .

There are enough people (media and many other things) that bring lesbians and anyone that is different down in life . . . Therefore I have to praise a movie that says "It's OK to be lesbian"! Because I hate to tell you this . . . We are out here and there and every where!

I mean you are who you are . . . I happen to believe it's sort of a sliding scale affect. People are some where on a spectrum . . . And people can and do fall in love with both sexes. I am not one of them . . . But I understand or at least I try to.

Never once did she abandoned her kids . . . They were always talked about or thought about during the whole movie . . . So, not sure where you are getting this stuff about her abandoning her "responsibilites" . . . She loved and took care of her kids . . . I also think she was doing them a favor by taking care of herself. A woman is no good to anyone if she is not right with herself. So, by taking care of herself she was also helping everyone else around her.

I bet if they did a part 2 you would find out that the kids are better off and have a better mother for her living her life and being in a better place! Mac was willing to take on the responsiilty of the kids. . . Therefore affording them one more person in their lives that loved them. What's wrong wtih that?

I just so happen to feel that the world could use a lot more love and understanding! That positive works a whole lot better than negative and that yes, the glass is half full! I'm an optimist!

Why are you assuming that ALL lesbians are happy once we decide or are in a lesbian relationship? Or I guess where did you find that in the movie? 'Cause I think you and I watched different movie! Relationships are relationships are relationships . . . Meaning it does NOT matter who is in them (be it male/female, male/male or female/female) . . . They are all the same . . . It takes two people to have a relationship . . . . Meaning you have to work on them and it does take two people!

As far as the movie telling everyone to try and be a lesbian . .. . Again you are the master of over statement . . . Yes, the secretary tried it . . . But no one else was promoting it or "recruiting" others to join the team! No toasters were awarded that I saw . . . . That was a JOKE folks! So, the other friend (she was NOT the secretary by the way . . . She was another real estate agent . . .) Remember Leslie Hope's character was hired as their secretary until she took the board test!

Where do you assume that it is just temporary for her? What gave you that idea? Yes, she and Mac were discussing the future of their relationship . . . But give her a break, she just got out of her marriage and was starting a new relationship. I mean going in we ALL hope they last forever (If you feel you are in love with this person) . . . But is it realistic to think that ALL of them will last forever? They were just stating that she's not sure that it will last forever . . . But here and now she's totally in love with Mac. (Sorry it has been a few months since I have seen it and am probably badly paraphrasing it!)

I LOVED the movie . . . I applaud and totally appreciate Wendy Crewson and Leslie Hope along with everyone else in the cast for making it! Thanks should also go to Lee Rose for writing and directing it! Kudos to all involved . . .

Off to go find my Mac! LOL :-) :-) :-) :-)

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I think you are missing the message of this film. I don't see it as promoting/encouraging a lesbian lifestyle at all. I really think it's just meant to be a portrayal of someone who is older and enters into a same-sex relationship. The movie doesn't even portray the main woman as a lesbian. She consistently states that she sees Mac as a person, and thus fell in love with the person not the gender.

I do think the character of Kate is pretty flawed, and will agree that she seemed to put little effort into saving her marriage. Her husband seemed to want to stay together, but then again it also doesn't show him making any changes to fix their problems. So in that respect, if Kate knew he would continue not making changes and their relationship would stay the same, it is her right to get a divorce. It seemed if anything that Jack was in denial that she would actually want to separate until she actually asked to, so I have mixed feelings about the divorce (although if the daughter said her and the brother were sick of the arguing, we can assume their relationship has been bad for some time and it just didn't come across on screen). But I can still see how you could view Kate as selfish. When the stupid "All By Myself" song kept coming on, all I could think was you were the one who initiated the divorce.

I also thought Kate was extremely naive about coming out. Her mother already seemed extremely closed-minded about a number of things, so why would she expect her to be okay with her dating a woman? I also thought her husband and daughter's reactions were quite realistic. Also, I don't think the movie was trying to make everyone who didn't accept Kate's relationship out to be dislikable, but in real life if you came out and people reacted like Sandy or the mother, you probably wouldn't like them either. The husband is never shown to be okay with the relationship, but admits to learning to tolerate it. He states that he does not understand it, but wants Kate to be happy. This is a universal message and something I think everyone should strive for. I have seen my own mother blast my brother for his job, his car, and tons of other stupid things. Instead of constantly complaining about them and just bugging him, she should learn to accept the things she cannot change. I understand homosexuality is a little different, but again, people will never be 100% what we want them to be. We need to learn to tolerate what we view as their flaws and mistakes and that is in regard to anything, not solely homosexuality.

Also, considering the movie never flat out said Kate was a lesbian, I did find it odd when people kept alluding to her never looking happier. But I think maybe they were just giving a blunt statement meaning "I realize you are happy now and haven't been in a long time." Kate said she feels the way she did when she first got with Jack, so she did love him at one time.

One last thing. A lot of people stay together for the kids and then divorce as soon as the last one goes to college. This isn't any healthier and in many respects can be even harder for them. If you aren't going to put in efforts to fix you relationship, but are only going to tolerate it until the kids are older, then you may as well divorce sooner.

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She said her mom did the 'Biblical thing' and disowned her daughter. It is not Biblical to disown your daughter over a decision you're not happy with; and I hope fellow Christians AND non-Christians agree. If your understanding of Christianity is that disowning is the Biblical thing to do in that situation, you've been grossly misled. But I can understand why you would be deceived; media simply doesn't paint an accurate picture of Christianity most of the time. This movie's a good example of that.

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"The basic premise is that a woman has to become a lesbian to experience true happiness."


I don't think you watched the same movie as I did.


She was separating prior to meeting Mac.


I think you're being sarcastic, or possibly homophobic, but I'm not sure.


Good luck.


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meh. I saw the main character's gayness way before she was separating from her husband. daughter is annoying and bitchy as shi8.

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Oh God. Fortune vomits on my eiderdown once more.

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