Fence



I just watched Monte Walsh. I do not know if anyone noticed in the movie the type of barbwire they were using. It was the modern high-tensile 4-point barbwire that is used throughout the country today. That is not the type of barbwire that was being used in 1892. The late 1800’s is the time when barbwire was becoming the most popular type of fence due its ability to fence in large areas for a relatively cheap price. The type that would have been used then would have been the much thicker barbwire that would have to be manually stretched. The tool that was used is an old-fashioned come-a-long. That is the most popular tool for putting up thick barbwire even today. However, with the high-tensile wire that most people opt to use, all that you need is the claw part of a hammer or a crowbar to get it tight with.

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We've got some of that wire still up, from back in the homesteaders days - and you can't go fencing without a come-a-long.

Our ranching family were soooo lamenting Albert's fence line job ... could easily see you go bonkers doing that, day in and day out ... when Monte comes to drop off supplies and then just ride off - and you see miles and miles of fence yet to be set, digging every hole by hand - omg, suicide must have seemed a relief (mind you the horse may of thought otherwise ;)

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I've made and fixed fence...God, I loathe that job! Even today, using mechanical augers to dig the post holes, it's a godawful boring job! One ranch I worked on years back hired high school kids on summer vacation to set the posts and college kids to string the wire. The cowboys wouldn't touch the job...they even offered us extra pay to do it, as I remember. When the offer was made, two cowboys just smiled, picked up their keys, threw their gear in their trucks and just left.

Go into some parts of northern Nevada, on ranches that are 1.5-2 million acres and you won't find but one or two pastures that are fenced. It's as close to Nineteenth Century ranching and cowboying as you'll find today.

Jim Gammon had the sad face that Joe Hooker needed for that part...although the actor in the original Monte Walsh also had it...and the line about "I had me a good life" also is appropriate for the job and the character.


Lord, how I miss cowboying...

"It's a hard country, kid."

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Howdy!
But where were they going to get some of that old barb wire for the movie? I did a search (google be darn) at www.dogpile.com. Barb wire just brought up modern day type. Old Barbwire had several hits:

BARBED WIRE FACTS

* There are over 570 patented wires to search for in acquiring a collection.
* Over 2,000 variations of these patented wires have been found and cataloged to date.
* Less than 50% of the patented wires were manufactured commercially because of difficulty in producing the wire with automated machinery, or other excessive costs in manufacturing.
* Less than 10% of all patented wires proved to be practical in actual use.
* Those wires not produced in quantity, become rare and sought after by collectors.
* In the final analysis, the Glidden patent #157,124 issued in 1874, and the Baker patent #273,2l9 issued in 1883, were the most practical and successful.

On this page there are 16 drawings of barb wire patented from 1874 thru 1887:
http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/barbedwireimages.htm

Here is a photo of 9 types of Barb wire used in the 1800's:
http://concise.britannica.com/ebc/art-4430/Barbed-wire-used-for-fencing-19th-century-from-the-collection
As you can see, not all barb wire fencing was thick like you said.

Glidden got the patent...although his wasn't the first on the scene....it was the first to be mass produced:
http://www.gliddenhomestead.org/Barb%20Wire%20Saga.htm

There you go ;) Lots of good reading.

Yes, I've fixed barb wire fence when my husband and I were working on cattle ranches. In the early 90's, our boss bought quite a few sections (640 acres = 1 section) of ground in the Missouri Breaks. Miles of fencing needed to be put up. It took 2 summers to survey and hand dig holes. }:-P Putting the wire up wasn't the hard part as the boss jerry-rigged a contraption to hold the spool on the front of a 4x4 4-wheeler. That took one summer with lots of hands putting up 4 and 5 strands. My husband said he lost count of the posts after he hit 3,000!
We left that job just before our 4th summer there. On our next (and last) job, we didn't have to put in any fencing, but repairing fence on 50 sections was a long summer job. I enjoyed it tho. The boss would usually send me out by myself but sometimes with my husband. It was nice, quiet and peaceful to not be around the old fart! But the ranch hand jobs came to an end when my husband suffered 2 work related Traumatic Brain Injuries in less than 48 hrs in Aug 96. Now I maintain woven wire fencing to keep my registered dairy goats in. Believe me, barb wire won't stop them! :D
MTLaura


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if you look close, at the end, you see it is 2 point...

~When That Rope Starts To Pull Tight, You Can Feel The Devil Bite Your Ass~

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I didn't understand before I read this why fencing was such a looked-down-on job in the movie, but now I do.

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