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So this takes place...

posted 8 years ago by TheColossalAvenger
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Just four years after Freddy's Dead? I learned that a few days ago.

For at least a period the entire town seemed to go crazy and all the kids were dead and it's never mentioned. Not even so much as "Holy crap, Freddy must have been responsible for all those deaths!" For something that was so relatively recent, it's strange it's never mentioned or connection is made.

I mean, I get that Freddy was managed to be completely forgotten about. But even if the adults managed to keep Freddy a secret, an entire town of people experiencing full blown mental issues/psychosis and completely void of young life seems like something that would be pretty difficult to cover up from the news and such. And it's not even like a lot of the characters in the movie were kids not old enough to remember.

Now in this movie it's like nothing ever happened. For example, at some point the town clearly had to be "resettled" within four years given so many families and teenagers and kids live there now. So none of teenagers found a virtually empty town strange? Or heard about all these deaths and suicides of EVERY kid in town on the news before moving there?

On the other hand, I suppose the closest thing is the police chief mentioning having four years of peace by suppressing Freddy's name, but still.

I'm actually watching the movie for the first time since seeing it in theaters right now and this was just a curious thought that struck me.

[–] IMDB_Vits 8 years ago

Yeah, this movie ignores that one. Why does FREDDY still have his powers in Hell, since the demons left his body when his daughter killed him?

[–] AdamWaldron96-2 (178) 7 years ago

Freddy vs. Jason manages to both take place after both Freddy and Jason's origins were revealed, and then completely ignore them, which is hilarious.

In Freddy's Dead, we learn that Freddy's powers come from a trio group of Dream Demons, and when he is killed in the real world for the first time in the series, the Dream Demons leave his body to find someone like Freddy. But then this movie comes and says "Screw that, Freddy's power is boosted by fear. If people fear him, then he can come back. If not, then he can't come back." Unless this movie was supposed to imply he transcended past the power of the Dream Demons and become a feared entity by the fear of others, I'd say this was kind of a mistake.

In Jason Goes to Hell, we learn that either Pamela or Elias Voorhees had a mysterious book that probably conjured Jason back to life [whether if it was when he was a child, sometime between human Jason (Part IV) and zombie Jason (Part VI), or if it was in-between Part VIII and JGTH]. Also, somewhere in-between Part VIII and JGTH, someone turned his child-like body back into a man again, gave him the ability to body hop, and the only thing that could actually kill him was a dagger that one of his bloodline had to be wielding in order to actually kill him. In this, he's just the walking zombie he became in Parts VI-VIII: he comes back to life when he is "awoken" or "disturbed".

[–] hurricane (1908) 4 years ago

I never liked the demons entering Freddy bit anyway.

It just felt like something they pulled out of their ass to explain why Freddy was dead in the 6th one, when he'd been continually resurrected in all of the previous movies. Also, why did stabbing Freddy with his own glove drive the demons away when literally every other way of killing him previously had had no effect?

[–] rozkween 8 years ago

After the first boy is killed, the deputy does in fact say that Freddy is back, and the sheriff shuts him down..

[–] tinkerbell_jonna 8 years ago

When the guy said, "We've had 4 years of peace" I don't think he was necessarily meaning 4 years since Freddy's Dead, He just meant 4 years since Freddy was last active...who knows when that was?

To ME it seems to follow the Dream Child ending more... forgetting about Freddy and keeping him at bay.. in my mind, I like to think FvJ is set between Dream Child and Freddy's Dead.

[–] GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 8 years ago

When the guy said, "We've had 4 years of peace" I don't think he was necessarily meaning 4 years since Freddy's Dead, He just meant 4 years since Freddy was last active...who knows when that was?

To ME it seems to follow the Dream Child ending more... forgetting about Freddy and keeping him at bay.. in my mind, I like to think FvJ is set between Dream Child and Freddy's Dead.

I like this movie but the thing that bothers me is that whole character of the Sherriff who wasn't even in the previous movies. I guess we somehow just have to accept that the Sherriff was a friend of some character in the previous movies even though it's not mentioned what his connection is to anyone in the previous movies is.

Green Goblin is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1L4ZuaVvaw

[–] tinkerbell_jonna 8 years ago

I know some fans say this movie takes place like 10 years in the future from it's release date ~ would be around 2013~ and sometime after Freddy's Dead, Freddy was somehow resurrected and active again....that would have been when Freddy's killed Lori's mother.

B/c if this movie takes place 4 years after Freddy's Dead, it wouldn't make sense b/c In Freddy's Dead Springwoood was void of children and teenagers, only psychotic adults were there, YET Lori was a Springwood native, so where was she during Freddy's Dead?

SO, I'd have to go with the idea that FvJ takes place around 2013 OR between Dream Child and Freddy's Dead.

[–] GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 8 years ago

Except that scenes from Freddy's Dead are in Freddy's intro scene.

1, 2 Freddy's coming for you. 3, 4 better lock your door.

[–] AdamWaldron96-2 (178) 7 years ago

Even if it did take place around 2013, it couldn't work because A) a billboard in the movie at the camp makes it appear to be late 2003, early 2004 B) Jason gets frozen in 2010 in Jason X.

[–] Manna-Fest 8 years ago

No honey, this is certainly AFTER Freddy's Dead since as the user above me said, they depict scenes from the movie in it's opening. But you're right on one thing: Freddy was apparently brought back again after Freddy's Dead and at this point, he killed Lori's mother and Mark's brother. Then at some point Springwood decided to erase Freddy's existence.

However, you're wrong about the crossover movie happening in 2013. It's set in 2003. This disrupts the time gap between Freddy's Dead and this movie since FD is to happen in 2001 (as it's opening states, "ten years from now") and this movie is in 2003 but it's clear it's meant to take place several years, perhaps a dozen or so after that movie. Since Freddy's Dead is in 2001, that puts it twelve years after Dream Child which happens in 1989. The thing is, the writers (as usual) don't pay attention to the timeline and I doubt they even cared to pay attention to the details of Freddy's Dead to get things right. After all, they establish Freddy coming back again off screen without even acknowledging how since the dream demons were released from him. And Freddy's Dead itself does a terrible job playing the part of taking place in 2001 when everything clearly looks 1990s and Maggie is established to be 28 (born in 1963!). Luckily the scene with Maggie's birthday is cut so you can say she's 38 instead.

But seeing Maggie as 38 in Freddy's Dead won't even matter anymore in the end and that deleted scene mind as well have been left in since the movie would have to take place in 1991 to account for Freddy Vs. Jason's events. So you have FD in 1991, a few years pass and at this time Springwood is rebuilding itself, Lori's family move into the Elm Street house, Lori's mother gets killed and by 1999, Freddy is finally taken out of the way once more. And since we have Freddy's Dead in 1991, that means the events of Parts 1-5 get pushed back a decade earlier happening in 1971-1979 now instead of 1981-1989. FD is twelve years after Dream Child and DC is eight years after Part 1.

[–] AdamWaldron96-2 (178) 7 years ago

By the end of Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare, there are no children/young adults left, and all the adults are left behind by Freddy, despite this movie wanting to remind us that Freddy killed Lori's mom and Mark's brother somewhere during that time too, which doesn't add up. Also, four years later, Springwood had like a massive open enrollment to not only get the teens in high school, but teens under hypnocil in Westin Hills as well. WTF? If you find this confusing, try doing the timeline for Friday the 13th with this movie in mind.

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7401) 7 years ago

I will say this about the Nightmare series. They have better continuity than the Friday the 13th films. Friday the 13th Parts 2-4 all take place around the same time 5 years after the original. But then you have Part 5 and 6 which take place about a decade after. Then Part 7 takes place quite a few years after that along with 8 taking place well after then to the point where the movies take place decades after they are made.