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Did Bill Cosby swearing seem just plain wrong to anyone else?


That was really wierd to me.

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It did strike me as odd hearing the Cos' swear at first...until I remembered that before he was Heathcliff Huxtable the Superdad he was a stand-up comic who used colorful language to good effect occasionally. If you have never seen the legendary stand-up film "Bill Cosby: Himself" check it out. You can pick it up at Amazon for under $10 and it's a must-see. The part that comes to mind is when he is talking about how he and his brother thought their names were "Goddammit" and "Jesus Christ" when they were little because that's all their father ever called them. "Something like "Goddammit, clean up your room! Jesus Christ, get over here!"

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I thought it was even more strange to see Seinfeld dropping "F" bombs all over the place. Obviously, the sitcom was sanitized but even his old stand up act contained very little if any profanity. I saw an interview with Bob Costas and Seinfeld said that not using profanity in his act was fun because it "made it harder."

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Absolutely. using swear words in comedy makes it easy.

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Still, the best line was right near the beginning; his opinion on cocaine:

[Snobby tone] Well, it intensifies your personality.
"And I said 'yes' but what if you're an a**hole?"

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When I was an early teen, and cursed in front of my grandfather for the first time (he was a folk singer and early West Village acquaintance of Cosby on and off stage) and instead of hushing me, he urged me to look to early Cosby for the proper use of the vernacular, and learn.

The lesson to learn, was that proper usage of curse words was acceptable, if not taken out of context, and only in appropriate circumstances.
Cosby was always very cautious of his (public) use of swearing, so I understand you noticing it now wore than before.
(Although, during his wonderful Letterman fill in slot earlier this year, he obviously held himself back a dozen times.)

Cosby's use of comedic cursing evolved through time with Rudy Ray Moore and Richard Pryor, up to Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock.

Not that I am a student or anything, but (hint-hint) I bet an essay tracing the roots of swearing through comedic history could be fun.
This could also lead to very similar arguments for free speech as were used in front of Congress like those of Frank Zappa's and 2-Live Crews'.


Black historians could have more fun, since it is easy to trace white comedic swearing way back to Vaudeville and Burlesque if not further..
Did Cosby break the mold back in the 50's? And if not, who did?

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Yep, both Cosby and Seinfeld swearing was really weird. But personally, I thought it brought more realism to the whole documentary. We really get to see the true Jerry, a side we had never seen before. I thought it was really interesting.

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How odd that people don't even know that Cosby used to swear up a storm in his act. Yeah, that wasn't as offbeat as seeing Seinfeld swear. I just barely saw the episode of Seinfeld where he's like, "This yogurt is so F'in good" but he really said it. Then to see him swearing in this film was even more unusual.

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When would Cosby EVER "swear up a storm in his act."?

Tell me the routines? Were they ever recorded?

He hardly ever curses in his act and criticizes comics who do.

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I've heard a lot of Cosby's act and he never uses foul language. He does the JC and Godmanit jokes, but that's it. I also saw Bill Cosby on Prejudice, and even then he wasn't all that offensive.

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He has used the word ass hole in his act. See "Bill Cosby: Himself".

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Some hypersensitive and/or religious folk consider "goddamn" and "Jesus Christ!" to be swearing. Cosby did have that routine in "Himself" where his father is saying those phrases to him and his brother. That routine plus the "a-hole" line is probably what they meant by "swearing up a storm".

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If that's the case, they should definitely choose a better word for it, the way they talk about it makes it sound like he's George Carlin or something.

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